Cybook Gen3: Latest about supported formats, price, etc.

sein · 10-07-2007, 09:47 AM

This seems to be the latest official release about the Cybook Gen3 (as on 7 Oct, 2007): its price, release deadline, formats, new design, etc

http://www.teleread.org/blog/

It says:

"From the Bookeen blog:

We have recently released the 0.98 version of the firmware. As announced previously, in this version we do support PDF format with some features as fit width, fit page, fit height and rotate 0°, 90°, 180°,270°.

The software will be ready on time and, as already said, the supported formats will be for this first release: Mobipocket (encrypted and unencrypted), HTML, PalmDoc, Txt and PDF. RTF and other formats supports will come on further firmware releases. The firmware update will, of course, be possible for every Cybook Gen3 possessor. The Cybook final design has been slightly modified, the surface treatment is not glossy anymore but keeps its soft touch. The navigation button has also been modified to be easier to press on.

Concerning our release date, the Cybook Gen3 will be definitely available before end of October. We will send very soon an official release date via our newsletter (subscribe here) and this blog. At this occasion we will also announce the opening of Cybook Gen3 pre-sales on our website.

Concerning the price we confirm a $350 for US territory and 350 Euros for Europe."

Sounds really interesting. Hope it goes on sale soon.

fred · 10-07-2007, 10:36 AM

350 euros ????

More expensive for European people !!!!
A very bad news...

Ortep · 10-07-2007, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fred

350 euros ????

More expensive for European people !!!!
A very bad news...

It is always like that. The price in the US is without taxes. In Europe the VAT is included. And that is around 19%

Try buying the new Sony in the US. It is $300. You will pay about $80 for transport, 6-10% import duties and 19% VAT over the complete deal. Do the math and you end up with something like 340 Euro.

HarryT · 10-07-2007, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ortep

It is always like that. The price in the US is without taxes. In Europe the VAT is included. And that is around 19%

19.6% in France, which is what everyone in the EU will pay. If you live outside the EU, you won't be charged VAT but you will then have to pay whatever local import duties apply.

guguy · 10-07-2007, 03:17 PM

350€ inc. 19,6% VAT means 292€ without (350/1,196) = +-414$ (1E=+-1,42$)

So European pay an extra 64$ for the gen3.

IceHand · 10-07-2007, 03:22 PM

Quote:

So European pay an extra 64$ for the gen3.

... and get 2 years of warranty. Well, € = $ is a common practice, is it not?

Ortep · 10-07-2007, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guguy

350€ inc. 19,6% VAT means 292€ without (350/1,196) = +-414$ (1E=+-1,42$)

So European pay an extra 64$ for the gen3.

Not quite. You also get the 2 years warranty that you have by law in Europe instead of the 90 days in the US

fred · 10-07-2007, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

19.6% in France, which is what everyone in the EU will pay. If you live outside the EU, you won't be charged VAT but you will then have to pay whatever local import duties apply.

Harry, what do you prefer ? Sony Reader or Iliad Irex ? Thank You !

JSWolf · 10-07-2007, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fred

Harry, what do you prefer ? Sony Reader or Iliad Irex ? Thank You !

Fred, the real question is what do you want to do with your eink device should you buy one? Both are good. If you just want to read books, then the 505, if you want to do more then read books, then iLiad.

fred · 10-07-2007, 05:10 PM

Ok JSWOLF thank's.

benzion72 · 10-08-2007, 08:48 AM

Is anybody thinking of other part of the world Africa, Asia, Australia, South America there is a lot of market in these areas infact it is the home to so many people even more than North America and Europe

hamh · 10-08-2007, 12:21 PM

I'm now holding my breath for the the new ebook reader... I was originally thinking about the sony 505, but looks like the sony connect doesn't have as much books as the mobipocket store. That's why I think may be the gen3 is a better choice.

What do you guys think?

Bagtrail · 10-08-2007, 12:34 PM

I agree with Fred that the price in Europe is too high, but moreover I cannot see ebook readers becoming more widely accepted unless prices drop by a big margin. At 350€ the Cybook is going to be well above what most readers would be prepared to fork out for a device which - compared with other gadgets at 350€ - has very limited functionality. Until they are down to 100-150€ most consumers will not give them a second thought. I read ebooks avidly, mostly from Many Books and Project Gutenberg, and I would love to have a device that offers a bigger, clearer screen, but not at 350€.

kacir · 10-08-2007, 02:01 PM

350 Euro?
PHEW!!!
350 Euro is almost 500 Dollars!
Come on ...
Even with the 19.6% VAT the $350 price becomes $418,6
... and do not try to tell me the difference is in the European 2 year warranty.
A two year service plan for Sony Reader at sonystyle.com costs whooping 25 bucks!
That would make the price $443.6
We are still being ripped for almost 60 bucks!

I know, I know ...
I am beating that dead horse again

I can't help myself when I see such a balant ripoff.

I am really sick and tired.
And I suspect that manufacturers abuse our VAT and longer warranty as an excuse to rip us off. Whatever you buy here in Europe - from iPod, iMac, e-ink reader to Kitchenaid kitchen appliance is much more expensive than in the USA.

kacir · 10-08-2007, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ortep

Not quite. You also get the 2 years warranty that you have by law in Europe instead of the 90 days in the US

2 Year Service Plan for a product in a $250-$500 price range costs a whooping $24,99 at sonystyle.com

10-07-2007, 09:47 AM	#1
sein Connoisseur Posts: 84 Karma: 3427 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: U.S.A. Device: Kindle, inkBook, Kobo	Cybook Gen3: Latest about supported formats, price, etc. This seems to be the latest official release about the Cybook Gen3 (as on 7 Oct, 2007): its price, release deadline, formats, new design, etc http://www.teleread.org/blog/ It says: "From the Bookeen blog: We have recently released the 0.98 version of the firmware. As announced previously, in this version we do support PDF format with some features as fit width, fit page, fit height and rotate 0°, 90°, 180°,270°. The software will be ready on time and, as already said, the supported formats will be for this first release: Mobipocket (encrypted and unencrypted), HTML, PalmDoc, Txt and PDF. RTF and other formats supports will come on further firmware releases. The firmware update will, of course, be possible for every Cybook Gen3 possessor. The Cybook final design has been slightly modified, the surface treatment is not glossy anymore but keeps its soft touch. The navigation button has also been modified to be easier to press on. Concerning our release date, the Cybook Gen3 will be definitely available before end of October. We will send very soon an official release date via our newsletter (subscribe here) and this blog. At this occasion we will also announce the opening of Cybook Gen3 pre-sales on our website. Concerning the price we confirm a $350 for US territory and 350 Euros for Europe." Sounds really interesting. Hope it goes on sale soon.

10-08-2007, 12:34 PM	#13
Bagtrail Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: Airis T620	Price of ebook reader I agree with Fred that the price in Europe is too high, but moreover I cannot see ebook readers becoming more widely accepted unless prices drop by a big margin. At 350€ the Cybook is going to be well above what most readers would be prepared to fork out for a device which - compared with other gadgets at 350€ - has very limited functionality. Until they are down to 100-150€ most consumers will not give them a second thought. I read ebooks avidly, mostly from Many Books and Project Gutenberg, and I would love to have a device that offers a bigger, clearer screen, but not at 350€.

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10-07-2007, 10:36 AM	#2
fred Addict Posts: 207 Karma: 300 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Marseille (France) Device: Cybook Gen 3	350 euros ???? More expensive for European people !!!! A very bad news...

10-07-2007, 03:17 PM	#5
guguy Groupie Posts: 191 Karma: 15 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Clermont-Ferrand/Paris, France Device: PRS-505	350€ inc. 19,6% VAT means 292€ without (350/1,196) = +-414$ (1E=+-1,42$) So European pay an extra 64$ for the gen3.

10-07-2007, 05:10 PM	#10
fred Addict Posts: 207 Karma: 300 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Marseille (France) Device: Cybook Gen 3	Ok JSWOLF thank's.

10-08-2007, 08:48 AM	#11
benzion72 Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2007 Device: mobile phone	Is anybody thinking of other part of the world Africa, Asia, Australia, South America there is a lot of market in these areas infact it is the home to so many people even more than North America and Europe

10-08-2007, 12:21 PM	#12
hamh Connoisseur Posts: 57 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chicago Device: iPhone 3G / Milestone / 505 / iPad 3G	I'm now holding my breath for the the new ebook reader... I was originally thinking about the sony 505, but looks like the sony connect doesn't have as much books as the mobipocket store. That's why I think may be the gen3 is a better choice. What do you guys think?

10-08-2007, 02:01 PM	#14
kacir Wizard Posts: 3,450 Karma: 10484861 Join Date: May 2006 Device: PocketBook 360, before it was Sony Reader, cassiopeia A-20	350 Euro? PHEW!!! 350 Euro is almost 500 Dollars! Come on ... Even with the 19.6% VAT the $350 price becomes $418,6 ... and do not try to tell me the difference is in the European 2 year warranty. A two year service plan for Sony Reader at sonystyle.com costs whooping 25 bucks! That would make the price $443.6 We are still being ripped for almost 60 bucks! I know, I know ... I am beating that dead horse again I can't help myself when I see such a balant ripoff. I am really sick and tired. And I suspect that manufacturers abuse our VAT and longer warranty as an excuse to rip us off. Whatever you buy here in Europe - from iPod, iMac, e-ink reader to Kitchenaid kitchen appliance is much more expensive than in the USA.