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Old 03-04-2009, 03:02 PM   #16
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Oh, their interaction was hilarous! But I still think Tuvok was a bad Vulcan, a true Vulcan wouldn't show annoyance. As that is an emotion. Curiosity, yes, humor, yes, but not annoyance. Spock would have been mystified why Neelix would act the way he did, but not be annoyed.
Why assume all Vulcans were cut from the same cloth? According to Trek lit lore, not all Vulcans are so purely unemotional as Spock and many others tried to suggest--though Spock himself showed annoyance with McCoy more than once. The Vulcan officials from Enterprise showed plenty of annoyance with humans in general. In the TOS episode Amok Time, Stonn (T'Pring's Chosen One) showed clear jealousy... and if avarice was an emotion, T'Pring had that in spades. Tuvok wasn't a "bad Vulcan," he simply wasn't as disciplined against displaying his emotions as some.

Trek's biggest flaw was to suggest that, with few exceptions, every member of an alien race thought and acted like all the others. Are all humans like that? It's a very narrow and prejudicial way of looking at outsiders...

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What was the question?
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Old 03-04-2009, 03:17 PM   #17
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Trek's biggest flaw was to suggest that, with few exceptions, every member of an alien race thought and acted like all the others. Are all humans like that? It's a very narrow and prejudicial way of looking at outsiders...
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Old 03-04-2009, 03:19 PM   #18
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Tuvok wasn't a "bad Vulcan," he simply wasn't as disciplined against displaying his emotions as some.
Yes exactly, they even had an eppisode where Tuvok was a boy and was being taught how to behave, he was quite rebelious.

and ENT Vulcans were annoyed and Angry all the time.
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Old 03-04-2009, 03:19 PM   #19
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I think probably the original was best. I'm talking about Hephaestus.

Otherwise, didn't anybody want to vote for Kirstie Alley? Wasn't she some sort of Vulcan in the first or second Trek movie? (ducks and runs for cover before rotten veggies begin to be flung at me)
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Tuvok was my favorite, I started with voyager, Voyager Cast is always my favorite.

T'pol was sexy, but not the sexiest girl on ENT, so she cant be my favorite Vulcan, and because she liked Tucker. Hoshi was my favorite girl on ENT... Ive got a thing for Asians

If I'd been the captain on ENT, I'd have kicked T'Pol off at the first stop and abandoned her. Or at the very least clapped her in the brig for insubordination and left her there!! She did nothing but argue and question, and I always thought less of Capt. Archer for letting her by with it.
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Old 03-04-2009, 10:11 PM   #21
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I think probably the original was best. I'm talking about Hephaestus.

Otherwise, didn't anybody want to vote for Kirstie Alley? Wasn't she some sort of Vulcan in the first or second Trek movie? (ducks and runs for cover before rotten veggies begin to be flung at me)
Yes, I mentioned Savik, Alley's character, also played by Robin Curtis in The Search for Spock.

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Old 03-05-2009, 08:56 AM   #22
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We seem to have a lot of Vulcans on this forum.
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Old 03-05-2009, 12:16 PM   #23
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Old 03-05-2009, 01:28 PM   #24
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Spock!! But TPol looks so good in her uniform.
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Old 03-05-2009, 01:36 PM   #25
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Spock!! But TPol looks so good in her uniform.
And out of it also.

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And out of it also.
You would think that Vulcans might be a little more reserved about
wearing such skin tight uniforms and sexuality in general, but not T'Pol!
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wearing such skin tight uniforms and sexuality in general, but not T'Pol!
Was it the episode where T'Pol and Trip rubbed "decontamnation gel" on each other for about 3 minutes where Enterprise jumped the shark?

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Was it the episode where T'Pol and Trip rubbed "decontamnation gel" on each other for about 3 minutes where Enterprise jumped the shark?
That was indeed somewhat over the top. There were a few of those decontamination
scenes that made me scratch Enterprise off my list of family entertainment shows.

There was even one where T'Pol spent the entire episode half naked in the decontamination chamber, and was trying to have her way with the doctor because she happened to be going through the Pon Far.

It goes to show how desperate they were for ratings at the time. That wasn't enough apparently, so in a later episode they just decided to go all out and show us her butt.

That sort of thing lowered the quality of Star Trek, in my opinion. However, If I were still a young single dude, I might disagree with that statement.
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It goes to show how desperate they were for ratings at the time. That wasn't enough apparently, so in a later episode they just decided to go all out and show us her butt.

That sort of thing lowered the quality of Star Trek, in my opinion. However, If I were still a young single dude, I might disagree with that statement.
they did? i dont remember. what episode is this so i can check this fact immediately.

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