Vanishing punctuation - Page 2

Jill75 · 05-28-2009, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

All I meant was that the encoding you have to tell calibre to use is "ascii"

Is this just a simple command on calibre?

kovidgoyal · 05-28-2009, 09:32 PM

It's a conversion option that you (optionally) set when converting a book

slantybard · 05-31-2009, 01:20 AM

Kovid, what do I tell calibre the source encoding is if it is "Western(ISO-8859-1)"? thanks.

kovidgoyal · 05-31-2009, 01:29 AM

latin1

slantybard · 05-31-2009, 02:55 AM

Hmm, that didn't work. When examining the html using firefox or kompozer on the Mac, the html shows encoding in western, but when calibre converted using latin1, the dashes, apostrophes, and quote marks show up as weird characters in the viewer. I will send you the zip'd html to play with and see. I am using 5.14 on the Mac OS X.

itimpi · 05-31-2009, 05:08 AM

That probably means that the "smart" versions of those characters are being used rather than the standard ASCII variants.

slantybard · 05-31-2009, 09:58 PM

Is there any way to put in a conversion to include "smart" punctuation? I tried latin1, utf-8, ascii, and the cp1200's all with problems. When I use Kompozer to replace all the smart punctuation, the conversions go well, but it would be nice to have an option in calibre to recognize smart punctuation and convert without the extra step.

kovidgoyal · 05-31-2009, 10:57 PM

As long as your smart quotation is in a consistent encoding, calibre will convert it fine. If it's in a mix of encodings, it wont

slantybard · 06-01-2009, 05:38 AM

Hmm, must be a mix of encodings then. thanks for the help though.

kiklop74 · 06-01-2009, 08:48 AM

try with cp1252 encoding. It usualy helps with smart quotes.

slantybard · 06-01-2009, 10:24 PM

Tried that as well already. Basically tried all the common encodings. Best solution was to open the file and globally replace all smart punctuation and resave it, then convert. I really think that the problem was the mixture of smart punctuation that confused calibre.

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05-28-2009, 09:32 PM	#17
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,871 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	It's a conversion option that you (optionally) set when converting a book

05-31-2009, 01:20 AM	#18
slantybard my parent's oops... Posts: 466 Karma: 1477570 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Vx->Handera->Clie-> Axim->505->650->KPW/Aura ->iOS/L2	Kovid, what do I tell calibre the source encoding is if it is "Western(ISO-8859-1)"? thanks.

05-31-2009, 01:29 AM	#19
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,871 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	latin1

05-31-2009, 02:55 AM	#20
slantybard my parent's oops... Posts: 466 Karma: 1477570 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Vx->Handera->Clie-> Axim->505->650->KPW/Aura ->iOS/L2	Hmm, that didn't work. When examining the html using firefox or kompozer on the Mac, the html shows encoding in western, but when calibre converted using latin1, the dashes, apostrophes, and quote marks show up as weird characters in the viewer. I will send you the zip'd html to play with and see. I am using 5.14 on the Mac OS X.

05-31-2009, 05:08 AM	#21
itimpi Wizard Posts: 4,552 Karma: 950151 Join Date: Nov 2008 Device: Sony PRS-950, iphone/ipad (Marvin/iBooks/QuickReader)	That probably means that the "smart" versions of those characters are being used rather than the standard ASCII variants.

05-31-2009, 09:58 PM	#22
slantybard my parent's oops... Posts: 466 Karma: 1477570 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Vx->Handera->Clie-> Axim->505->650->KPW/Aura ->iOS/L2	Is there any way to put in a conversion to include "smart" punctuation? I tried latin1, utf-8, ascii, and the cp1200's all with problems. When I use Kompozer to replace all the smart punctuation, the conversions go well, but it would be nice to have an option in calibre to recognize smart punctuation and convert without the extra step.

05-31-2009, 10:57 PM	#23
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,871 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	As long as your smart quotation is in a consistent encoding, calibre will convert it fine. If it's in a mix of encodings, it wont

06-01-2009, 05:38 AM	#24
slantybard my parent's oops... Posts: 466 Karma: 1477570 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Vx->Handera->Clie-> Axim->505->650->KPW/Aura ->iOS/L2	Hmm, must be a mix of encodings then. thanks for the help though.

06-01-2009, 08:48 AM	#25
kiklop74 Guru Posts: 800 Karma: 194644 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Argentina Device: Kindle Voyage	try with cp1252 encoding. It usualy helps with smart quotes.

06-01-2009, 10:24 PM	#26
slantybard my parent's oops... Posts: 466 Karma: 1477570 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Vx->Handera->Clie-> Axim->505->650->KPW/Aura ->iOS/L2	Tried that as well already. Basically tried all the common encodings. Best solution was to open the file and globally replace all smart punctuation and resave it, then convert. I really think that the problem was the mixture of smart punctuation that confused calibre.

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