LRF eBooks

JSWolf · 02-23-2009, 12:47 PM

When making an LRF edition that has headers and/or footers, would the poster please post a second copy that does not have any headers/footers? They don't really look nice and just take up page space. Thank you!

zelda_pinwheel · 02-23-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

When making an LRF edition that has headers and/or footers, would the poster please post a second copy that does not have any headers/footers? They don't really look nice TO ME and just take up page space IN MY OPINION. Thank you!

there, fixed that for ya.

HarryT · 02-23-2009, 01:20 PM

Speaking purely personally, Jon, the answer is no, I won't. I create books in a manner that I personally feel looks good. You're welcome to disagree with that, but I'm certainly not going to post versions of my books to match everyone's separate tastes!

netseeker · 02-23-2009, 06:11 PM

At least regarding the wasted space i do agree with JSWolf. Maybe it does look indeed nicer but headers on each page are almost useless. For a book with some hundred pages the wasted space results in more pagebreaks and just reduces battery power without being useful.

JSWolf · 02-23-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by netseeker

At least regarding the wasted space i do agree with JSWolf. Maybe it does look indeed nicer but headers on each page are almost useless. For a book with some hundred pages the wasted space results in more pagebreaks and just reduces battery power without being useful.

Well said.

If a book has say 300 pages with headers and footers you will lose about 20 pages. This means 20 more page turns.

JSWolf · 02-23-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Speaking purely personally, Jon, the answer is no, I won't. I create books in a manner that I personally feel looks good. You're welcome to disagree with that, but I'm certainly not going to post versions of my books to match everyone's separate tastes!

But, in this case, you are creating LRF format eBooks for others since you won't be reading them since you no longer have a reader that handles LRF. So why not create them for the people who will actually be reading them?

HarryT · 02-24-2009, 02:14 AM

I do footers but not headers. Personally, I think that's a good compromise. Footers are very useful in telling you where you are in the book. Headers I do agree with you are just space used for no useful gain.

rhadin · 02-24-2009, 10:39 AM

Well, Jon, we part ways once again on style of ebooks

. I like having headers and/or footers. I tend to read 4 to 6 books at a time and I like the reminders the headers and/or footers provide. It isn't critical, but nice.

As for the "wasted" space, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I prefer ebooks with more space between elements. I find them easier to read, especially as I (and my eyes) get older. A few extra pixels doesn't hurt.

HarryT · 02-24-2009, 11:49 AM

That perfectly illustrates the point I was trying to make, Richard; that we all have different tastes when it comes to book layout, and that it would be completely impractical to try to please everyone. All that we, as book "creators", can do, is produce books which we personally like the appearance of.

mtravellerh · 02-24-2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

That perfectly illustrates the point I was trying to make, Richard; that we all have different tastes when it comes to book layout, and that it would be completely impractical to try to please everyone. All that we, as book "creators", can do, is produce books which we personally like the appearance of.

Well put, Harry. If you weren't my friend already, I'd put you on my friend list for that alone.

Sparrow · 02-24-2009, 11:58 AM

I've been working on a book to upload as a Mobi file.
I could use Book Designer to make an LRF version, but I've no real idea what the end result will look like on the device.
Would it be better to upload a source file to the 'Other Formats' section so people could make their own version, according to their own preferences?

HarryT · 02-24-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparrow

I've been working on a book to upload as a Mobi file.
I could use Book Designer to make an LRF version, but I've no real idea what the end result will look like on the device.

Download Sony's "eBook Library" software. It has a damn-near perfect "emulation" of a Sony Reader in it, which allows you to see exactly what your book will look like on a "real" Reader.

If you use the LRF settings that I use in my BD tutorial, you won't go too far wrong, but you really do need to "preview" the book in the eBook Library software to make sure that all the chapter headings are right, and so on.

RWood · 02-24-2009, 12:23 PM

Sparrow, you could also use Calibre and that has its own LRF viewer built in.

I too make books that I like. I like both a header and a footer. Like rhadin I may have 5 or 6 books open at any one time. The extra page turns are a small price for the increased functionality.

Amalthia · 02-24-2009, 01:09 PM

I'm in the camp of not liking either headers or footers. Why not have an appendix? Though I'm trying to remember the last time I read a fiction novel that had footer information.

However, I'm apparently also in the minority of people that like my margins to be at 1px.

HarryT · 02-24-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Amalthia

I'm in the camp of not liking either headers or footers. Why not have an appendix?

In what way does an appendix replace headers and footers? Are you perhaps confusing "footers" with "footnotes"?

02-23-2009, 12:47 PM	#1
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 74,037 Karma: 129333114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	LRF eBooks When making an LRF edition that has headers and/or footers, would the poster please post a second copy that does not have any headers/footers? They don't really look nice and just take up page space. Thank you!

02-24-2009, 10:39 AM	#8
rhadin Literacy = Understanding Posts: 4,833 Karma: 59674358 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The World of Books Device: Nook, Nook Tablet	Well, Jon, we part ways once again on style of ebooks . I like having headers and/or footers. I tend to read 4 to 6 books at a time and I like the reminders the headers and/or footers provide. It isn't critical, but nice. As for the "wasted" space, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I prefer ebooks with more space between elements. I find them easier to read, especially as I (and my eyes) get older. A few extra pixels doesn't hurt. Last edited by rhadin; 02-24-2009 at 02:26 PM.

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HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Speaking purely personally, Jon, the answer is no, I won't. I create books in a manner that I personally feel looks good. You're welcome to disagree with that, but I'm certainly not going to post versions of my books to match everyone's separate tastes!

02-23-2009, 06:11 PM	#4
netseeker sleepless reader Posts: 4,763 Karma: 615547 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Germany, near Stuttgart Device: Sony PRS-505, PB 360° & 302, nook wi-fi, Kindle 3	At least regarding the wasted space i do agree with JSWolf. Maybe it does look indeed nicer but headers on each page are almost useless. For a book with some hundred pages the wasted space results in more pagebreaks and just reduces battery power without being useful.

02-24-2009, 02:14 AM	#7
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I do footers but not headers. Personally, I think that's a good compromise. Footers are very useful in telling you where you are in the book. Headers I do agree with you are just space used for no useful gain.

02-24-2009, 11:49 AM	#9
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	That perfectly illustrates the point I was trying to make, Richard; that we all have different tastes when it comes to book layout, and that it would be completely impractical to try to please everyone. All that we, as book "creators", can do, is produce books which we personally like the appearance of.

02-24-2009, 11:58 AM	#11
Sparrow Wizard Posts: 4,395 Karma: 1358132 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: UK Device: Palm TX, CyBook Gen3	I've been working on a book to upload as a Mobi file. I could use Book Designer to make an LRF version, but I've no real idea what the end result will look like on the device. Would it be better to upload a source file to the 'Other Formats' section so people could make their own version, according to their own preferences?

02-24-2009, 12:23 PM	#13
RWood Technogeezer Posts: 7,233 Karma: 1601464 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Device: Sony PRS-500	Sparrow, you could also use Calibre and that has its own LRF viewer built in. I too make books that I like. I like both a header and a footer. Like rhadin I may have 5 or 6 books open at any one time. The extra page turns are a small price for the increased functionality.

02-24-2009, 01:09 PM	#14
Amalthia Wizard Posts: 1,159 Karma: 32196 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Anchorage, AK Device: Sony Reader PRS-505, PRS-650, PRS-T3, Pocketbook HD2	I'm in the camp of not liking either headers or footers. Why not have an appendix? Though I'm trying to remember the last time I read a fiction novel that had footer information. However, I'm apparently also in the minority of people that like my margins to be at 1px.

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