High Court orders British ISPs to block "The Pirate Bay"

[ProfCrash]

Americans tend to get confused when the term state is used because we have a federal system and a state system. What most countries call provinces, we call states.

The terminology for various political institutions is different in every country. The President of the US is very different than the President of Russia and France. There are similarities in the concepts but there are very real differences as well. Given that most US schools do a crap job of teaching US government trying to explain the differences in other democracies can be challenging.

[elcreative]

Originally Posted by nogle

Correct. And the legislative is not part of the government either. By their definition, the government is the executive only. Most other democratic places in the world, the government is seen to be three branchs, executive, legislative, and judicial. The difference is in the definitions of state and government. Most would equate state with government.

And would be wrong in many cases... in a lot of states there is a Head of State (President, Queen whatever) and not a Head of Government (usually a Prime Minister or similar) clearly showing such countries have state and government as different...

[Ninjalawyer]

Originally Posted by nogle

Correct. And the legislative is not part of the government either. By their definition, the government is the executive only. Most other democratic places in the world, the government is seen to be three branchs, executive, legislative, and judicial. The difference is in the definitions of state and government. Most would equate state with government.

I made this point near the beginning of the thread and was told I had missed some point that was too obvious to even explain. Hopefully you have better luck.

[Sil_liS]

Originally Posted by mr ploppy

The same could be said for Harry Potter, but there are no pirate links on the first 5 pages for those (I didn't bother looking further).

True, but those 5 pages are filled by different sites announcing that the books are finally available. The other example didn't make the news.

[ProfCrash]

and if you change the wording, as Harry did, to Harry Potter download you will find them very easily.

[Sil_liS]

Originally Posted by ProfCrash

and if you change the wording, as Harry did, to Harry Potter download you will find them very easily.

But there is no reason to add the work "download".

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by Sil_liS

But there is no reason to add the work "download".

Sure there is. It's the standard search term I use if I want to know where to download something.

[Sil_liS]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Sure there is. It's the standard search term I use if I want to know where to download something.

Just because it is what you use, it doesn't mean that you need to use it. If you want to avoid darknet results, stop using it.

[HarryT]

My point was that it is a very natural search term to use if you're looking for a download. Hence, my suspicion is that it's a term that a great many people will use it.

[ProfCrash]

Before the book was actually released you didn't need to add download to the search term and the torrent sites would come up. Now, because of the release and news associated with it, you do.

I would imagine that most people looking to download anything from the web would include download in their search.

[DiapDealer]

"[BOOK AUTHOR/BOOK TITLE] ebook download" is not something someone would normally type if they were trying to find where they could legally purchase an ebook. ...Just sayin'. So it's hardly surprising that illicit search criteria returns illicit results, is it?

So in this new DNS blocking/filtering world, what, exactly, should be the top returned results when someone does a Google search on "harry potter ebook download"?

[stonetools]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

"[BOOK AUTHOR/BOOK TITLE] ebook download" is not something someone would normally type if they were trying to find where they could legally purchase an ebook. ...Just sayin'. So it's hardly surprising that illicit search criteria returns illicit results, is it?

So in this new DNS blocking/filtering world, what, exactly, should be the top returned results when someone does a Google search on "harry potter ebook download"?

Hopefully, the legal sites. Often, the pirate sites are top of the page. I tried " harry potter ebooks" and the top sites on the right were pirate sites.

[MovieBird]

Originally Posted by stonetools

Hopefully, the legal sites. Often, the pirate sites are top of the page. I tried " harry potter ebooks" and the top sites on the right were pirate sites.

Clear your cookies first then.

When I tried that exact quote, the first SIX results all pointed to Amazon. Seven was Pottermore. I didn't look past that.

[mr ploppy]

Originally Posted by HarryT

My point was that it is a very natural search term to use if you're looking for a download. Hence, my suspicion is that it's a term that a great many people will use it.

I would have thought "buy" would be used more than "download", or just "Harry Potter ebook". But Google does helpfully suggest "free download" in a dropdown as additional words you might want to add to your search.

Another country orders block of The Pirate Bay?

Pirate Bay Block Ordered In Netherlands: Court Tells ISPs To Stonewall Users