08-21-2009, 08:04 AM | #1 | |
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MS, Amazon, Yahoo join forces against Google Books digitization
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08-21-2009, 08:19 AM | #2 |
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And what plans does this "Open Book Alliance" have to make OOP and rare books available to the public? Or did they just choose the name because "openness" sounds good and the whole "open book" thing is a nice pun?
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08-21-2009, 08:21 AM | #3 |
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Seeing that Microsoft is in on this. I would say "Trying to cash in on it" is the plan.
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08-21-2009, 08:25 AM | #4 |
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08-21-2009, 08:31 AM | #5 | |
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08-21-2009, 09:18 AM | #6 |
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Of course, they're not specifying that the settlement only concerns things that weren't legal before, and Google never requested the grant(s) to be exclusive. The AAP and the Guild are trying to FUD and make Google look bad for something THEY are responsible for, and now come the other sharks.
The monopoly prophecies are particularly laughable.. It's up to the Congress to do the legislation right, and protect everyone against the Guild suing threats. |
08-21-2009, 09:29 AM | #7 | |
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The Internet Archive also joined the coalition, but their motivations are likely to be a bit different from MS, Yahoo and Amazon ones:
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08-21-2009, 01:33 PM | #8 |
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Well, the whole thing annoys me. No one cared about "orphan works" until Google came along, and then BAM...everyone wants a piece. There are lots of things out of print/copyright that I'd love to be able to get in ebook format, but the publishers don't care about re-releasing them, because they think they won't make any money off them, and the authors aren't alive to nag them about it. Google Books would have solved this nicely, but noooo....*goes off muttering*
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An interesting article here: http://hasbrouck.org/articles/Google...tersRights.pdf
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08-21-2009, 06:34 PM | #10 | |
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08-21-2009, 06:53 PM | #11 |
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Irony, (noun): Microsoft and Amazon claiming another company's practices are "anti-competitive."
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08-21-2009, 07:02 PM | #12 |
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I share others' qualms about this... albeit personally I find Google's digitized Public Domain works being prepended with implied (albeit not explicitly made) legal threats advising against commercial use to be rather spineless, and do not view them as a white knight either.
They had a chance to help restore millions of public domain books to their rightful owners: everyone. And they stopped short of going all the way in a clean, honest, and straightforward manner. As the saying goes: Weak! - Ahi |
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True, Google is hardly a purely benevolent corporation, but the public percepion is that Google is doing a great thing by making these orphaned books available to the public.
I've downloaded over a dozen rare books that I needed for research, but couldn't afford to go to England to read at the one library that had a copy in stock. |
08-21-2009, 07:32 PM | #14 | |
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I just wish governments had provided clear guidelines that reinforced the inviolability of the public domain... with no wiggle room for any of that scan-copyright bullshit ambiguity. - Ahi |
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08-21-2009, 07:45 PM | #15 |
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Microsoft and Yahoo joining forces against Google? I doubt this has anything to do with the recent Microsoft-Yahoo search deal.
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