kobo or kindle

CornoviiQueen · 01-09-2012, 04:00 PM

I'm really wanting an ereader and have narrowed down to either the kobo or kindle. I still have a few questions though. Can you download kindle books to a kobo? is kindle able to have an sd card to expand the memory? I know you can store some kindle books on the cloud thingymajig, but I heard the amazon wiped all that out (by mistake or on purpose).

booklover6 · 01-09-2012, 04:03 PM

No.
No.
No, that didn't happen.

CornoviiQueen · 01-09-2012, 04:45 PM

Can you convert kindle books to work on other ereaders such as the Kobo? How do you do this?

wallcraft · 01-09-2012, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CornoviiQueen

Can you convert kindle books to work on other ereaders such as the Kobo?

If the ebooks are free from DRM (encryption) you can use Calibre to convert from Kindle formats (AZW/MOBI or TOPAZ), e.g. downloaded via K4PC or K4Mac, to ePub and also from ePub, e.g. from Kobo, to MOBI (for the Kindle). Some Kindle ebooks are DRM-free, but most have DRM. See Apprentice Alf's Blog for what to do about DRM.

CornoviiQueen · 01-09-2012, 05:57 PM

How do you you know if a book you want to buy has the drm before you actually buy it?
Im leaning towards the Kobo for features but have seen books that I want on amazon and not available elsewhere.
(im sorry if these questions have been asked before and if they are dumb to most users. You cant really look at ereaders in the UK properly as they are covered in hard plastic cases to prevent theft)

CornoviiQueen · 01-09-2012, 05:59 PM

and the literature that comes with websites or sales sheets dont come with real life info, just a lot of jargon that no-one wants to expand on!

robko · 01-09-2012, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CornoviiQueen

How do you you know if a book you want to buy has the drm before you actually buy it?

The short version is that if it has been been published in the last 70ish years it likely has DRM. This is an oversimplification but generally true, especially if it is a new/popular book. Not sure how Amazon identifies them on their website (or if they do) as each company is a little different in that regard. As long as you are paying for the book Apprentice Alf/Calibre are your friends in getting it to work on your device. It's surprisingly easy although it may break the letter of the law depending where you live.

soulfuldog · 01-10-2012, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CornoviiQueen

How do you you know if a book you want to buy has the drm before you actually buy it?

Generally on Amazon.co.uk, under the 'Product Details' (along with things like format, publisher, etc) if there is a line stating "Simultaneous Device Usage: Unlimited", that means it's DRM-free. If that isn't included (and mostly it isn't), then the book has DRM.

If you are comparing the Kobo Wireless (the one that's less than £70) and the Kindle, I prefer the latter. I didn't like the basic Kobo I played with, it seemed quite slow and clunky, but I was quite impressed with the Kobo Touch. However, like you I wasn't impressed with not being able to pick it up and get a feel of it in my hand, I can do that with the Kindle in Tesco, but the Kobo's in WH Smith were firmly attached to the display

HarryT · 01-10-2012, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CornoviiQueen

How do you you know if a book you want to buy has the drm before you actually buy it?
Im leaning towards the Kobo for features but have seen books that I want on amazon and not available elsewhere.
(im sorry if these questions have been asked before and if they are dumb to most users. You cant really look at ereaders in the UK properly as they are covered in hard plastic cases to prevent theft)

You don't need to know if an Amazon book has DRM.

Install Calibre.

Google for "Apprentice Alf" and install the DRM-removal tools for Calibre.

Now, when you buy a book from Amazon, just drag and drop it into Calibre. If it has DRM, the DRM will be removed automatically. Convert it to ePub format, and copy it to your Kobo.

CRussel · 01-10-2012, 10:36 AM

I agree, Harry. I do that will all books I buy, whether from Kobo, or Amazon, or some other source. Except in my case, I convert to MOBI format and copy to my Kindle. The same workflow even with Kindle books and I own a Kindle.

HarryT · 01-10-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CRussel

I agree, Harry. I do that will all books I buy, whether from Kobo, or Amazon, or some other source. Except in my case, I convert to MOBI format and copy to my Kindle. The same workflow even with Kindle books and I own a Kindle.

Yes, that's exactly what I do. I buy most of my books from Amazon, but the occasional one from Waterstones (as ePub), and there's absolutely no difference in the way that I handle them.

CornoviiQueen · 01-10-2012, 04:30 PM

[/QUOTE] I can do that with the Kindle in Tesco, but the Kobo's in WH Smith were firmly attached to the display

[/QUOTE]

unfortunately in my local tesco the closest you can get to a Kindle without buying it is through the hard security boax and packaging.

CornoviiQueen · 01-10-2012, 04:31 PM

Thanks everyone, youve all been very helpful

MoodRing · 01-11-2012, 03:51 AM

Personally I would have to recommend the Kindle as a recent owner of one for Christmas!

The Terminator · 01-11-2012, 09:44 PM

I'd recommend the Kobo Touch.

The youtube reviews aren't really all that great comparing because the Kobo Touch is running an old firmware version and the page turns are really slow, they are much faster now.

01-09-2012, 04:00 PM	#1
CornoviiQueen Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: kobo	kobo or kindle I'm really wanting an ereader and have narrowed down to either the kobo or kindle. I still have a few questions though. Can you download kindle books to a kobo? is kindle able to have an sd card to expand the memory? I know you can store some kindle books on the cloud thingymajig, but I heard the amazon wiped all that out (by mistake or on purpose).

01-09-2012, 04:45 PM	#3
CornoviiQueen Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: kobo	can you convert kindle books to wotk on other ereaders? Can you convert kindle books to work on other ereaders such as the Kobo? How do you do this?

01-09-2012, 05:57 PM	#5
CornoviiQueen Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: kobo	how do you know before buying an ebook if it has drm? How do you you know if a book you want to buy has the drm before you actually buy it? Im leaning towards the Kobo for features but have seen books that I want on amazon and not available elsewhere. (im sorry if these questions have been asked before and if they are dumb to most users. You cant really look at ereaders in the UK properly as they are covered in hard plastic cases to prevent theft)

01-11-2012, 09:44 PM	#15
The Terminator Retired Posts: 2,552 Karma: 37638420 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Vancouver Island Canada Device: Kobo Touch, Optimus One (2.3), Nexus 7 (4.2)	I'd recommend the Kobo Touch. The youtube reviews aren't really all that great comparing because the Kobo Touch is running an old firmware version and the page turns are really slow, they are much faster now. Last edited by The Terminator; 01-18-2012 at 11:54 PM.

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booklover6 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,533 Karma: 14008730 Join Date: May 2008 Location: PA (USA) Device: Kobo Clara, 2E, Libre, PW4, PW5, 2022 Kindle	No. No. No, that didn't happen.

01-09-2012, 05:59 PM	#6
CornoviiQueen Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: kobo	and the literature that comes with websites or sales sheets dont come with real life info, just a lot of jargon that no-one wants to expand on!

01-10-2012, 10:36 AM	#10
CRussel (he/him/his) Posts: 12,161 Karma: 79742714 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sunshine Coast, BC Device: Oasis (Gen3),Paperwhite (Gen10), Voyage, Paperwhite(orig), Fire HD 8	I agree, Harry. I do that will all books I buy, whether from Kobo, or Amazon, or some other source. Except in my case, I convert to MOBI format and copy to my Kindle. The same workflow even with Kindle books and I own a Kindle.

01-10-2012, 04:30 PM	#12
CornoviiQueen Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: kobo	[/QUOTE] I can do that with the Kindle in Tesco, but the Kobo's in WH Smith were firmly attached to the display [/QUOTE] unfortunately in my local tesco the closest you can get to a Kindle without buying it is through the hard security boax and packaging.

01-10-2012, 04:31 PM	#13
CornoviiQueen Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: kobo	Thanks everyone, youve all been very helpful

01-11-2012, 03:51 AM	#14
MoodRing MoodRing Posts: 38 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Cork, Ireland Device: none	Personally I would have to recommend the Kindle as a recent owner of one for Christmas!

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