Entourage eDGe - Great Reader for Scientists

zetareticuli · 03-03-2010, 08:01 PM

Guys, here are some pictures of the Entourage eDGe displaying the Kepler Extrasolar Planet Finder Instrument Handbook. This is the perfect example of a technical PDF. The same type of PDF that engineers and scientists read. The eDGe does a wonderful job displaying technical PDFs. It really looks no different than reading it on computer using a PDF reader such as Adobe Reader.

The overexposure in the pictures is the result of the light sources around. It actually looks excellent and very sharp.

ckole · 03-04-2010, 12:10 AM

What size was the PDF doc formatted for? 8.5 x 11? If it is that format this is super promising. I have lots of company manuals which I want on a device. My Nook just doesn't work well.

Also can you tell me the physical measurements of the eink screen. Width and Height.

Thanks!

zetareticuli · 03-04-2010, 08:49 AM

Yes, 8.5 by 11 is the format for this. As far as the exact physical measurements of the eInk screen, I don't have those right now for the eDGe. I will take measurements later today and post them here.

osama_jamal · 03-04-2010, 03:58 PM

Super clear images!!
Way to go eDGe. I think this product is the most advanced eReader available at the moment.

zetareticuli · 03-04-2010, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osama_jamal

Super clear images!!
Way to go eDGe. I think this product is the most advanced eReader available at the moment.

Agreed.

davidspitzer · 03-04-2010, 04:51 PM

it seems the same as my kindle DX in quality (same screen tech of course for the eink side). Si I m unsure as to why the edge claims the title as best ereade for scientist. I am a little dubious of the form factor and power consumption based on the second screen

davidspitzer · 03-04-2010, 04:55 PM

I checked it is the exact same size and resolution as the Kindle DX screen. I think this is an interesting device as I have never met a gadget i did not like, but it seems sorta frakenstein to me.

zetareticuli · 03-04-2010, 05:36 PM

PDFs look better on the eDGe than the Kindle DX. I have performed side by side comparison with several PDFs and the eDGe wins hands down. The hardware is comparable but the eDGe software for the eInk is better. I think that explains the difference. In addition to this, PDF Table of Contents works and zooming is excellent. Of course, Amazon could release software updates to the Kindle DX that offer similar functionality as far as displaying PDF is concerned.

Now, the eDGe's biggest issues are portability and battery life. At over 3 lbs, the eDGe weighs more than many 10.1" netbooks. Also, the eDGe has sides (the eInk and the LCD), this makes handling it more difficult than the Kindle DX. In addition to this, the battery life of the eDGe is shorter than the Kindle DX by at least a few hundred page turns. Also, Kindle DX gives you access to the rich selection of the Amazon Kindle store. Other than these items, the eDGe is light years ahead and there is no comparison as far as features and functionality.

If Amazon would fix some of the issues with the Kindle DX (better PDF support, folder structure, etc), it would make the Kindle DX a much more attractive device.

davidspitzer · 03-04-2010, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zetareticuli

PDFs look better on the eDGe than the Kindle DX. I have performed side by side comparison with several PDFs and the eDGe wins hands down. The hardware is comparable but the eDGe software for the eInk is better. I think that explains the difference. In addition to this, PDF Table of Contents works and zooming is excellent. Of course, Amazon could release software updates to the Kindle DX that offer similar functionality as far as displaying PDF is concerned.

Now, the eDGe's biggest issues are portability and battery life. At over 3 lbs, the eDGe weighs more than many 10.1" netbooks. Also, the eDGe has sides (the eInk and the LCD), this makes handling it more difficult than the Kindle DX. In addition to this, the battery life of the eDGe is shorter than the Kindle DX by at least a few hundred page turns. Also, Kindle DX gives you access to the rich selection of the Amazon Kindle store. Other than these items, the eDGe is light years ahead and there is no comparison as far as features and functionality.

If Amazon would fix some of the issues with the Kindle DX (better PDF support, folder structure, etc), it would make the Kindle DX a much more attractive device.

I would love to see the kindle and the edge side by side with a technical pdf

davidspitzer · 03-04-2010, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zetareticuli

Guys, here are some pictures of the Entourage eDGe displaying the Kepler Extrasolar Planet Finder Instrument Handbook. This is the perfect example of a technical PDF. The same type of PDF that engineers and scientists read. The eDGe does a wonderful job displaying technical PDFs. It really looks no different than reading it on computer using a PDF reader such as Adobe Reader.

The overexposure in the pictures is the result of the light sources around. It actually looks excellent and very sharp.

can you post the pdf so i can try it on my kindle for comparisons

zetareticuli · 03-04-2010, 05:52 PM

http://archive.stsci.edu/kepler/manu...-19033-001.pdf

davidspitzer · 03-04-2010, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zetareticuli

Guys, here are some pictures of the Entourage eDGe displaying the Kepler Extrasolar Planet Finder Instrument Handbook. This is the perfect example of a technical PDF. The same type of PDF that engineers and scientists read. The eDGe does a wonderful job displaying technical PDFs. It really looks no different than reading it on computer using a PDF reader such as Adobe Reader.

The overexposure in the pictures is the result of the light sources around. It actually looks excellent and very sharp.

attached is a kindle dx image (from me cell phone) i am not sure but it looks the same as the edge (its dark and cruddy because my phone camera is weak)

wallcraft · 03-04-2010, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckole

Also can you tell me the physical measurements of the eink screen. Width and Height

Same Vizplex screen as the Kindle DX:

(140 × 203mm) 9.7" 825 × 1200 pixels, 150 ppi

zetareticuli · 03-04-2010, 06:52 PM

For some reason, I see the eDGe's sharper. Could be my eyes, though. My main issue is that I am stuck with whatever I see on the DX. With the eDGe, I can zoom in. I really would love to use the DX but the poor PDF support is a big issue for me. 99% of the documents I read are in PDF.

SCION · 03-04-2010, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidspitzer

..it seems sorta frakenstein to me.

03-03-2010, 08:01 PM	#1
zetareticuli Addict Posts: 367 Karma: 228 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Aztak Mentor	Entourage eDGe - Great Reader for Scientists Guys, here are some pictures of the Entourage eDGe displaying the Kepler Extrasolar Planet Finder Instrument Handbook. This is the perfect example of a technical PDF. The same type of PDF that engineers and scientists read. The eDGe does a wonderful job displaying technical PDFs. It really looks no different than reading it on computer using a PDF reader such as Adobe Reader. The overexposure in the pictures is the result of the light sources around. It actually looks excellent and very sharp. Attached Thumbnails

03-04-2010, 06:52 PM	#14
zetareticuli Addict Posts: 367 Karma: 228 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Aztak Mentor	For some reason, I see the eDGe's sharper. Could be my eyes, though. My main issue is that I am stuck with whatever I see on the DX. With the eDGe, I can zoom in. I really would love to use the DX but the poor PDF support is a big issue for me. 99% of the documents I read are in PDF. Last edited by zetareticuli; 03-04-2010 at 07:00 PM.

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03-04-2010, 12:10 AM	#2
ckole Enthusiast Posts: 44 Karma: 12 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Nook	What size was the PDF doc formatted for? 8.5 x 11? If it is that format this is super promising. I have lots of company manuals which I want on a device. My Nook just doesn't work well. Also can you tell me the physical measurements of the eink screen. Width and Height. Thanks!

03-04-2010, 08:49 AM	#3
zetareticuli Addict Posts: 367 Karma: 228 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Aztak Mentor	Yes, 8.5 by 11 is the format for this. As far as the exact physical measurements of the eInk screen, I don't have those right now for the eDGe. I will take measurements later today and post them here.

03-04-2010, 03:58 PM	#4
osama_jamal "eBook Addict!" Posts: 51 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Jordan Device: Sony Reader PRS-505	Super clear images!! Way to go eDGe. I think this product is the most advanced eReader available at the moment.

03-04-2010, 04:51 PM	#6
davidspitzer So Many Words to Read! Posts: 411 Karma: 125665 Join Date: Aug 2006 Device: Kindle	it seems the same as my kindle DX in quality (same screen tech of course for the eink side). Si I m unsure as to why the edge claims the title as best ereade for scientist. I am a little dubious of the form factor and power consumption based on the second screen

03-04-2010, 04:55 PM	#7
davidspitzer So Many Words to Read! Posts: 411 Karma: 125665 Join Date: Aug 2006 Device: Kindle	I checked it is the exact same size and resolution as the Kindle DX screen. I think this is an interesting device as I have never met a gadget i did not like, but it seems sorta frakenstein to me.

03-04-2010, 05:36 PM	#8
zetareticuli Addict Posts: 367 Karma: 228 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Aztak Mentor	PDFs look better on the eDGe than the Kindle DX. I have performed side by side comparison with several PDFs and the eDGe wins hands down. The hardware is comparable but the eDGe software for the eInk is better. I think that explains the difference. In addition to this, PDF Table of Contents works and zooming is excellent. Of course, Amazon could release software updates to the Kindle DX that offer similar functionality as far as displaying PDF is concerned. Now, the eDGe's biggest issues are portability and battery life. At over 3 lbs, the eDGe weighs more than many 10.1" netbooks. Also, the eDGe has sides (the eInk and the LCD), this makes handling it more difficult than the Kindle DX. In addition to this, the battery life of the eDGe is shorter than the Kindle DX by at least a few hundred page turns. Also, Kindle DX gives you access to the rich selection of the Amazon Kindle store. Other than these items, the eDGe is light years ahead and there is no comparison as far as features and functionality. If Amazon would fix some of the issues with the Kindle DX (better PDF support, folder structure, etc), it would make the Kindle DX a much more attractive device.

03-04-2010, 05:52 PM	#11
zetareticuli Addict Posts: 367 Karma: 228 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Aztak Mentor	http://archive.stsci.edu/kepler/manu...-19033-001.pdf

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