Darwin's Origin of Species - Page 3

kennyc · 03-11-2010, 06:59 PM

Thanks Ben, I'm definitely looking forward to it. I recently watched a couple of his talks on TED - http://www.ted.com/speakers/dan_dennett.html and have followed his work for years.

Kevin2960 · 03-11-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vector

There is no reason why our discussion can't include the current state of evolution theory.

There is a Rumour that BEN has Evolved ........... Of course it is just a RUMOUR

FlorenceArt · 03-12-2010, 03:25 AM

Well, I re-downloaded both Evolution and the Beagle from the MR library last night. I'll try to start on Evolution some time next week and let you know how I like it

Kevin2960 · 03-12-2010, 05:57 AM

If my new replacement 600 arrives today, I'll be reading Evolution by tomorrow !

kennyc · 03-12-2010, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin2960

If my new replacement 600 arrives today, I'll be reading Evolution by tomorrow !

Is it tomorrow yet?

Kevin2960 · 03-12-2010, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

Is it tomorrow yet?

NO ..... It's still Today ....... and NO New Reader

kennyc · 03-12-2010, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin2960

NO ..... It's still Today ....... and NO New Reader

Oh! Sorry.

Here's hoping it arrives soon!

WT Sharpe · 03-12-2010, 08:52 AM

I read 10% of The Origin of Species, then killed my Kindle this morning. I just ordered another one with one-day shipping.

Reading a book like The Origin of Species on my Nook would be a waste, because after two software upgrades, there's still no way to export the highlights and notes.

On the bright side, the Nook is capable of taking notes and highlighting now. Before the latest upgrade, it couldn't even do that!

The Nook is getting there—slowly!

kennyc · 03-12-2010, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

I read 10% of The Origin of Species, then killed my Kindle this morning. I just ordered another one with one-day shipping.

Reading a book like The Origin of Species on my Nook would be a waste, because after two software upgrades, there's still no way to export the highlights and notes.

On the bright side, the Nook is capable of taking notes and highlighting now. Before the latest upgrade, it couldn't even do that!

The Nook is getting there—slowly!

So now you get some Nookie time!

kennyc · 03-12-2010, 09:58 AM

I read the first few pages (introduction) to Darwin's Dangerous Idea and am loving it -- even if it is paper!

FlorenceArt · 03-12-2010, 01:40 PM

Well. I tried to start the Origin (feel pretty stupid for calling it Evolution before) on the train back home, only my Cybook died on me. Again. Of course, ever since the first traumatic experience of the First Law of Technology (Never Depend on it, aka Whenever You Most Need It, It Will Fail), I am well prepared (Rule #2: Never Leave Home Without a Backup), so I started a pbook instead - Edgar Morin's La méthode.

Unfortunately it's obvious this will be a tough one (it didn't help that my neighbors on the train were extra special noisy today) and it will take a lot of concentration to read, so I don't think I can read it and The Origin at the same time - sorry guys, hope you'll have fun without me!

poohbear_nc · 03-12-2010, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

I read 10% of The Origin of Species, then killed my Kindle this morning. I just ordered another one with one-day shipping.

Reading a book like The Origin of Species on my Nook would be a waste, because after two software upgrades, there's still no way to export the highlights and notes.

On the bright side, the Nook is capable of taking notes and highlighting now. Before the latest upgrade, it couldn't even do that!

The Nook is getting there—slowly!

Survival of the fittest reader - day 1!

ddave · 03-12-2010, 02:40 PM

I was surprised to see this thread because everyone looked at me so strangely when I said I'd read Darwin's "On the Origin of Species, 6th Ed.", an ePub book. I'm glad I read it, but it is a difficult read. His level of detail in the examples combined with the wordy writing style of the period make for a slow read. And therefore, a perfect book to have on your eReader. When I had 10 minutes, I could turn it on (Sony 700) and read a section. It took a while, but I completed the book.
Do the new books on evolution replace this work. I think not. The examples provided by Darwin will be more commonly appreciated by the layman, for example dog breeding in England, rose breeding, sheep breeding are just some of the examples he uses to make the case that selection can alter and even create species. A new text may get into details provided by DNA research and anatomical studies, but Darwin's examples (for me especially from the animal world) provide examples everyone should be able to relate to.
In summary, I wouldn't sit down and read it for 2-3 hours straight, but I'm glad I read it. ( I have to admit, my appreciation for the book could be explained as I am a scientist and I found the logic in his writing to be both interesting and excruciatingly detailed.)

Dave

Ea · 03-12-2010, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FlorenceArt

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Unfortunately it's obvious this will be a tough one (it didn't help that my neighbors on the train were extra special noisy today) and it will take a lot of concentration to read, so I don't think I can read it and The Origin at the same time - sorry guys, hope you'll have fun without me!

I'll have to postpone starting to read it until Wednesday next week. Got an invitation to a job interview today for next Tuesday, and I'm not prepared at all. Wrote the application in the last minute after only skimming the job advert, and emailed 10 min. past deadline, and there was an error in it, too

So I didn't think anything would come off it. Now that I've had a closer look at the job in question, it actually looks quite good

Anyway, no time for serious reading right now.

kennyc · 03-12-2010, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ea

I'll have to postpone starting to read it until Wednesday next week. Got an invitation to a job interview today for next Tuesday, and I'm not prepared at all. Wrote the application in the last minute after only skimming the job advert, and emailed 10 min. past deadline, and there was an error in it, too

So I didn't think anything would come off it. Now that I've had a closer look at the job in question, it actually looks quite good

Anyway, no time for serious reading right now.

Good Luck!

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03-11-2010, 06:59 PM	#31
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,872 Karma: 118716293 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2; Kindle Fire	Thanks Ben, I'm definitely looking forward to it. I recently watched a couple of his talks on TED - http://www.ted.com/speakers/dan_dennett.html and have followed his work for years.

03-12-2010, 03:25 AM	#33
FlorenceArt High Priestess Posts: 5,761 Karma: 5042529 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montreuil sous bois, France Device: iPad Pro 9.7, iPhone 6 Plus	Well, I re-downloaded both Evolution and the Beagle from the MR library last night. I'll try to start on Evolution some time next week and let you know how I like it

03-12-2010, 05:57 AM	#34
Kevin2960 YODA's Uglier Twin Posts: 974 Karma: 6295251 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Leicester, UK Device: PRS-600 and 2 Kindle 3's - and now a K4 + HTC Desire HD	If my new replacement 600 arrives today, I'll be reading Evolution by tomorrow !

03-12-2010, 08:52 AM	#38
WT Sharpe Bah, humbug! Posts: 39,073 Karma: 157049943 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Device: Kindle Oasis, iPad Pro, & a Samsung Galaxy S9.	I read 10% of The Origin of Species, then killed my Kindle this morning. I just ordered another one with one-day shipping. Reading a book like The Origin of Species on my Nook would be a waste, because after two software upgrades, there's still no way to export the highlights and notes. On the bright side, the Nook is capable of taking notes and highlighting now. Before the latest upgrade, it couldn't even do that! The Nook is getting there—slowly!

03-12-2010, 09:58 AM	#40
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,872 Karma: 118716293 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2; Kindle Fire	I read the first few pages (introduction) to Darwin's Dangerous Idea and am loving it -- even if it is paper!

03-12-2010, 01:40 PM	#41
FlorenceArt High Priestess Posts: 5,761 Karma: 5042529 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montreuil sous bois, France Device: iPad Pro 9.7, iPhone 6 Plus	Well. I tried to start the Origin (feel pretty stupid for calling it Evolution before) on the train back home, only my Cybook died on me. Again. Of course, ever since the first traumatic experience of the First Law of Technology (Never Depend on it, aka Whenever You Most Need It, It Will Fail), I am well prepared (Rule #2: Never Leave Home Without a Backup), so I started a pbook instead - Edgar Morin's La méthode. Unfortunately it's obvious this will be a tough one (it didn't help that my neighbors on the train were extra special noisy today) and it will take a lot of concentration to read, so I don't think I can read it and The Origin at the same time - sorry guys, hope you'll have fun without me!

03-12-2010, 02:40 PM	#43
ddave Enthusiast Posts: 35 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Minnesota, USA Device: none	I was surprised to see this thread because everyone looked at me so strangely when I said I'd read Darwin's "On the Origin of Species, 6th Ed.", an ePub book. I'm glad I read it, but it is a difficult read. His level of detail in the examples combined with the wordy writing style of the period make for a slow read. And therefore, a perfect book to have on your eReader. When I had 10 minutes, I could turn it on (Sony 700) and read a section. It took a while, but I completed the book. Do the new books on evolution replace this work. I think not. The examples provided by Darwin will be more commonly appreciated by the layman, for example dog breeding in England, rose breeding, sheep breeding are just some of the examples he uses to make the case that selection can alter and even create species. A new text may get into details provided by DNA research and anatomical studies, but Darwin's examples (for me especially from the animal world) provide examples everyone should be able to relate to. In summary, I wouldn't sit down and read it for 2-3 hours straight, but I'm glad I read it. ( I have to admit, my appreciation for the book could be explained as I am a scientist and I found the logic in his writing to be both interesting and excruciatingly detailed.) Dave

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