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Old 05-18-2016, 06:04 AM   #1381
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Judas hat es schon wieder getan – nicht das mit der elektrischen Gitarre (gestern war 50. Jahrestag!), sondern das mit den Sinatra-»Coverversionen«:

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Old 05-18-2016, 06:21 AM   #1382
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Ich bin ein großer Fan, aber mit dem Sinatrazeug kann ich nicht wirklich was anfangen. Auch auf der letzten Platte mit selbstgeschriebenen Liedern war nur eins dabei, das mir wirklich gefällt:

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Old 05-18-2016, 06:23 AM   #1383
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Das kann ich verstehen – Sinatra bevorzugst auch du sicher im Original, schön mit Streichern und Schmalz in der Stimme, nichwahrnich?
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Old 05-18-2016, 06:31 AM   #1384
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Old 05-19-2016, 02:34 AM   #1385
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Old 05-19-2016, 03:23 AM   #1386
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Ich habe es mir jetzt nicht ganz angeschaut, aber besser fand ich die Parodie der beiden Moderatoren in der Pause des ESC.

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Old 05-19-2016, 03:42 AM   #1387
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^ Das Erschreckende an der Parodie ist ja, dass man sie sich ohne Probleme als Siegersong vorstellen kann.
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Old 05-19-2016, 04:02 AM   #1388
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Wieso erschreckend? Ist es nicht eher sympathisch, dass das Publikum einen solchen Song zum Gewinner machen könnte, weil es weiß, dass man diesen Wettbewerb nicht wirklich ernstnehmen kann?

Ich bevorzuge die Eigenparodie, da sie die durchkalkulierte Dürftigkeit des Ganzen deutlich macht und – anders als der amerikanische Versuch – weiß, worüber sie singt.
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Old 05-19-2016, 04:43 AM   #1389
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Da ist natürlich was dran. Der ESC ist halt Camp und Trash, ok, und man hat sich irgendwie dran gewöhnt und akzeptiert, dass das wohl so sein muss. Gerade deshalb finde ich aber Colberts Außenblick so interessant. Denn wenn man ehrlich ist, sieht ESC genau so aus, wie er es vorführt. Er reduziert einen typischen ESC-Auftritt präziser auf seine optischen und musikalischen Kernelemente als die nettere Eigenparodie.
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Old 05-19-2016, 05:14 AM   #1390
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Ich fand gerade den »typischen« ESC-Auftritt bei Colbert am schwächsten, weil er das ganze Frohbotschafts-Gehudel außer acht lässt, das viele Beiträge durchzieht, und das oft durchaus ernst gemeint zu sein scheint (Wird es nicht sogar dadurch erst camp? Hat mal jemand Susan Sontags Telefonnummer im Himmel und kann nachfragen?)
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Old 05-23-2016, 12:01 PM   #1391
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Old 05-23-2016, 12:25 PM   #1392
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Darf ich das als Beitrag zur Diskussion des »Camp«-Begriffs verstehen?
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Old 05-23-2016, 03:24 PM   #1393
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Old 05-25-2016, 01:09 PM   #1394
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