Plugboard, template, and custom composite column recipes - Page 36

nynaevelan · 08-25-2014, 01:25 PM

It is just coming out with the title. When I looked at the metadata with the metadata editor program for those that have a similar plugboard and are sent directly to my pw2, it has the plugboard info in the Title field. But for the Save to Disk ones they are not being adjusted. I tried changing it from azw3 to all formats and still no change for the save to disk. Then I thought it was selecting the send only azw3 to a single directory, and tried it with all the options and still no adjustments. I do not know what else to try to get the plugboard to work.

chaley · 08-25-2014, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nynaevelan

It is just coming out with the title. When I looked at the metadata with the metadata editor program for those that have a similar plugboard and are sent directly to my pw2, it has the plugboard info in the Title field. But for the Save to Disk ones they are not being adjusted. I tried changing it from azw3 to all formats and still no change for the save to disk. Then I thought it was selecting the send only azw3 to a single directory, and tried it with all the options and still no adjustments. I do not know what else to try to get the plugboard to work.

Your plugboard setup should look like the screen shot below. Does it? Remember that plugboards do not work with KF8 (azw3 + mobi) books.

eschwartz · 08-25-2014, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaley

Remember that plugboards do not work with KF8 (azw3 + mobi) books.

You mean, dual-MOBI.
KF8=AZW3

nynaevelan · 08-25-2014, 02:56 PM

Ok, I do not know what the dual-mobi things are, too technical for me. But I just connected to the save to disk folder, and used the folder-device to run the exact same plugboard and it works. So it is something with the save to disk that is not working. Here is what it looks like.

chaley · 08-25-2014, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nynaevelan

Ok, I do not know what the dual-mobi things are, too technical for me. But I just connected to the save to disk folder, and used the folder-device to run the exact same plugboard and it works. So it is something with the save to disk that is not working. Here is what it looks like.

How do you know that it is working or not? Do you have some way of looking inside an AZW3 file? I always test with EPUB so I can look inside the book to get the OPF. I don't know how one does that with AZW3.

nynaevelan · 08-25-2014, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaley

How do you know that it is working or not? Do you have some way of looking inside an AZW3 file? I always test with EPUB so I can look inside the book to get the OPF. I don't know how one does that with AZW3.

Yes, I am using both the metadata editor program to look at it, and the kindle for pc program to see the info. The change is visible in both programs. If you cannot figure it out the folder-device option will work to do what I need it to do. I am not sure when this has stopped working because I have not exported the files into k4pc to work on collections since Amazon went live with the Cloud Collections.

chaley · 08-25-2014, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nynaevelan

Yes, I am using both the metadata editor program to look at it, and the kindle for pc program to see the info. The change is visible in both programs. If you cannot figure it out the folder-device option will work to do what I need it to do. I am not sure when this has stopped working because I have not exported the files into k4pc to work on collections since Amazon went live with the Cloud Collections.

Something very close to your template works for me with save-to-disk of an epub book, so something else is going on. I never use amazon formats so I can't (actually, won't) debug further.

Good that the folder-device works for you.

DMee · 09-02-2014, 12:23 PM

OK, this is driving me mad - please help someone :-)

In my series numbering - "proper" books in the series get their integer series number - if there's a "pre" book that gets published I use fractions to order them - if there is an "about the series" style book I "number" them using the year they were published.

I have been using a plugboard to allow me to email books to my kindle so I get

Series Name [03] Book Title

but have noticed that these then sort alphabetically not numerically

i.e.

[1]
[1999]
[2]

So I've spent all afternoon investigating how to tweak it so they sort properly
Adding loads of zeros obviously works but I don't like the look
I then though I would use the "spaces before" option but no matter what I do it only seems to add one space before the shorter numbers

-35
-1
1999
where - is a space

Please tell me I am incredibly stupid and there's an easy way of getting what I want :-)

theducks · 09-02-2014, 01:26 PM

OK

Look at the {series_index} tips on the template screen
Leading 0's

I like uniformity, so I also force 2 trailing decimals:

Code:

{series_index:0>5.2f}

The online Help has lots more on template (options) use

eschwartz · 09-02-2014, 03:22 PM

You may not want thre leading zeroes to match a four-digit year. So I'd suggest using "0.1" for "about the series" books.

Year of publication is so arbitrary

at least use "99" on the assumption that series' don't get that long.

DMee · 09-02-2014, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

OK

Look at the {series_index} tips on the template screen
Leading 0's

I like uniformity, so I also force 2 trailing decimals:

Code:

{series_index:0>5.2f}

The online Help has lots more on template (options) use

Cheers - been there - done that

- didn't like the leading zeros.

I want leading spaceS not just one space.

theducks · 09-02-2014, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMee

Cheers - been there - done that

- didn't like the leading zeros.

I want leading spaceS not just one space.

Change the '0' to a space
http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/template_lang.html (see advanced formtting)

chaley · 09-03-2014, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMee

Cheers - been there - done that

- didn't like the leading zeros.

I want leading spaceS not just one space.

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

Change the '0' to a space
http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/template_lang.html (see advanced formtting)

Sorry, but in templates, multiple spaces are always compressed to 1 space.

theducks · 09-03-2014, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaley

Sorry, but in templates, multiple spaces are always compressed to 1 space.

Ah the old 'compress whitespace' trick

Personally, I use 0's (and only 2 places to the left) so I never saw that.

I used real card catalogs into the 80's so I don't have issues with 'Library order' and I learned to live with ASCII sorting and found it Oh so much easier to count 0's instead of leading spaces (and that was with mono-pitched fonts)

DMee · 09-04-2014, 07:39 AM

Don't suppose there's any way of getting it to use any other character in place of space?

I could live with, say, underscores

__32
_132
1999

??

08-25-2014, 02:56 PM	#529
nynaevelan eBook Junkie Posts: 1,526 Karma: 1464018 Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Device: Kindle Fire 2020, Kindle PW2	Ok, I do not know what the dual-mobi things are, too technical for me. But I just connected to the save to disk folder, and used the folder-device to run the exact same plugboard and it works. So it is something with the save to disk that is not working. Here is what it looks like. Attached Thumbnails

09-02-2014, 01:26 PM	#534
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 29,799 Karma: 54830978 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	OK Look at the {series_index} tips on the template screen Leading 0's I like uniformity, so I also force 2 trailing decimals: Code: {series_index:0>5.2f} The online Help has lots more on template (options) use

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08-25-2014, 01:25 PM	#526
nynaevelan eBook Junkie Posts: 1,526 Karma: 1464018 Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Device: Kindle Fire 2020, Kindle PW2	It is just coming out with the title. When I looked at the metadata with the metadata editor program for those that have a similar plugboard and are sent directly to my pw2, it has the plugboard info in the Title field. But for the Save to Disk ones they are not being adjusted. I tried changing it from azw3 to all formats and still no change for the save to disk. Then I thought it was selecting the send only azw3 to a single directory, and tried it with all the options and still no adjustments. I do not know what else to try to get the plugboard to work.

09-02-2014, 12:23 PM	#533
DMee Zealot Posts: 116 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Stockport, UK Device: ipad, iphone, kindle	OK, this is driving me mad - please help someone :-) In my series numbering - "proper" books in the series get their integer series number - if there's a "pre" book that gets published I use fractions to order them - if there is an "about the series" style book I "number" them using the year they were published. I have been using a plugboard to allow me to email books to my kindle so I get Series Name [03] Book Title but have noticed that these then sort alphabetically not numerically i.e. [1] [1999] [2] So I've spent all afternoon investigating how to tweak it so they sort properly Adding loads of zeros obviously works but I don't like the look I then though I would use the "spaces before" option but no matter what I do it only seems to add one space before the shorter numbers -35 -1 1999 where - is a space Please tell me I am incredibly stupid and there's an easy way of getting what I want :-)

09-02-2014, 03:22 PM	#535
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	You may not want thre leading zeroes to match a four-digit year. So I'd suggest using "0.1" for "about the series" books. Year of publication is so arbitrary at least use "99" on the assumption that series' don't get that long.

09-04-2014, 07:39 AM	#540
DMee Zealot Posts: 116 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Stockport, UK Device: ipad, iphone, kindle	Don't suppose there's any way of getting it to use any other character in place of space? I could live with, say, underscores __32 _132 1999 ??

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