First O'Reilly titles now available as e-book bundles

wallcraft · 07-15-2008, 03:54 PM

O'Reilly has made good on its commitment to release 30 titles in DRM-free PDF, ePub and MOBI format. What is new is that they say all 30 will eventually be available from Amazon for the Kindle, but will not use the proprietary TOPAZ format (even though MOBI is sub-optimal).

See 30 O'Reilly Titles Now Available as Ebook Bundles; Many In Kindle Store Later Today.

nekokami · 07-15-2008, 04:27 PM

If they're Kindle files but with no DRM, does that mean they'd work on another Mobi reader if they were renamed?

Hadrien · 07-15-2008, 04:29 PM

I love what O'Reilly is doing here. They support all the major file formats including ePub, no-DRM and once you buy a book, you get it in all 3 formats. They're a few steps ahead of the rest of the publishers with such commitments.

pilotbob · 07-15-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nekokami

If they're Kindle files but with no DRM, does that mean they'd work on another Mobi reader if they were renamed?

They said they are going to sell them on their store for the Kindle... so I assume that will be a DRM free mobi file. This should work on any mobi reader. Unless Amazon is allowing people access to its DRM server.

BOb

abdelazer · 07-15-2008, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nekokami

If they're Kindle files but with no DRM, does that mean they'd work on another Mobi reader if they were renamed?

Yes, these .mobi files were intentionally created for both the Kindle & other readers. You can read more here: http://oreilly.com/ebooks/mobi/

wallcraft · 07-15-2008, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nekokami

If they're Kindle files but with no DRM, does that mean they'd work on another Mobi reader if they were renamed?

It isn't clear if the versions from Amazon for the Kindle come with DRM or not - they don't seem to be available yet. Unless the Kindle-only version is much cheaper, buying the bundle directly from O'Rielly is a better deal because you also get PDF and ePub as well as (Kindle compatible, but works anywhere) MOBI.

nekokami · 07-15-2008, 04:46 PM

I just keep hoping for more publishers to ask Amazon to post stuff for the Kindle without DRM. But selling non-DRM content for the Kindle from a non-Amazon site makes a good point, too.

TheJohnNewton · 07-15-2008, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nekokami

I just keep hoping for more publishers to ask Amazon to post stuff for the Kindle without DRM. But selling non-DRM content for the Kindle from a non-Amazon site makes a good point, too.

I asked Corey Doctorow why his books aren't available from Amazon for the Kindle. He said it was because they insisted on him using DRM and he refuses to sell ebooks with DRM.

As to the O'Reilly news this is great! Why bother with the book from Amazon if you can get the same from O'Reily withoug the Amazon baggage?

nekokami · 07-15-2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheJohnNewton

I asked Corey Doctorow why his books aren't available from Amazon for the Kindle. He said it was because they insisted on him using DRM and he refuses to sell ebooks with DRM.

Does he sell ebooks at all? I thought he only gave them away?

TheJohnNewton · 07-15-2008, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nekokami

Does he sell ebooks at all? I thought he only gave them away?

He does not sell them on the Kindle. I can't say for other readers. He has a nice feature set up on his web site where he matches libraries and schools with donors. So after reading his latest book on my Kindle for free I donated a hard copy of it to my local library using his web site. Pretty cool.

I now know why you would bother with the Amazon version of the O'Reilly books. They are much cheaper, almost all are $9.99, than the O'Reilly price.

ZenEngineer · 07-16-2008, 01:24 AM

Now, if could just get Sequoia to publish a .pdf or .lrf of the Pocket Reference.

nekokami · 07-16-2008, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TheJohnNewton

He has a nice feature set up on his web site where he matches libraries and schools with donors. So after reading his latest book on my Kindle for free I donated a hard copy of it to my local library using his web site. Pretty cool.

Very cool. He didn't have that set up last time I looked at his site. I'll need to check it out. I owe someone a copy of Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town.

WillAdams · 07-16-2008, 08:57 AM

Well, Abramowitz and Stegun is freely available:

http://www.math.sfu.ca/~cbm/aands/

A fair number of reference works are freely available:

http://www.freelabs.com/~whitis/ebooks/index.xhtml

William

ronnn · 07-16-2008, 10:11 AM

This is indeed an excellent news.
Let's hope that now, Sony will release their updated firmware supporting Epub format.

JoeD · 07-16-2008, 11:17 AM

Great news.

Although 30 books isn't much, it's a step in the right direction and the fact they're providing several formats for the same purchase price is commendable.

Be interesting to see how well the epub versions read on a smaller device compared to the not so ideal pdf format.

07-15-2008, 03:54 PM	#1
wallcraft reader Posts: 6,975 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	First O'Reilly titles now available as e-book bundles O'Reilly has made good on its commitment to release 30 titles in DRM-free PDF, ePub and MOBI format. What is new is that they say all 30 will eventually be available from Amazon for the Kindle, but will not use the proprietary TOPAZ format (even though MOBI is sub-optimal). See 30 O'Reilly Titles Now Available as Ebook Bundles; Many In Kindle Store Later Today.

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07-15-2008, 04:27 PM	#2
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	If they're Kindle files but with no DRM, does that mean they'd work on another Mobi reader if they were renamed?

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Hadrien Feedbooks.com Co-Founder Posts: 2,263 Karma: 145123 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Paris, France Device: Sony PRS-t-1/350/300/500/505/600/700, Nexus S, iPad	I love what O'Reilly is doing here. They support all the major file formats including ePub, no-DRM and once you buy a book, you get it in all 3 formats. They're a few steps ahead of the rest of the publishers with such commitments.

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nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	I just keep hoping for more publishers to ask Amazon to post stuff for the Kindle without DRM. But selling non-DRM content for the Kindle from a non-Amazon site makes a good point, too.

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ZenEngineer Connoisseur Posts: 65 Karma: 92 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Device: Sony PRS-505	Now, if could just get Sequoia to publish a .pdf or .lrf of the Pocket Reference.

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WillAdams Wizard Posts: 1,234 Karma: 3350652 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Amazon Kindle Paperwhite (300ppi), Samsung Galaxy Book 12	Well, Abramowitz and Stegun is freely available: http://www.math.sfu.ca/~cbm/aands/ A fair number of reference works are freely available: http://www.freelabs.com/~whitis/ebooks/index.xhtml William

07-16-2008, 10:11 AM	#14
ronnn Member Posts: 24 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: SONY PRS-505	This is indeed an excellent news. Let's hope that now, Sony will release their updated firmware supporting Epub format.

07-16-2008, 11:17 AM	#15
JoeD Guru Posts: 895 Karma: 4383958 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: na	Great news. Although 30 books isn't much, it's a step in the right direction and the fact they're providing several formats for the same purchase price is commendable. Be interesting to see how well the epub versions read on a smaller device compared to the not so ideal pdf format.

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