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11-19-2009, 07:09 PM | #17 | |
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11-19-2009, 07:14 PM | #18 |
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Time limited license are a difficult commercial proposition in the US. Businesses would be forced under our advertising law to use terms like "rent" and "lease" in lieu of buy and purchase. I expect it would go over like Circuit City's Divx discs.
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11-19-2009, 07:26 PM | #19 |
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1) I don't see how the Google Trends line proves anything; it certainly doesn't say anything new.
2) Correlation does not necessarily prove causation. There is no particular reason to presume that "going DRM-free" was solely (or even predominantly) responsible for the increase in iTunes music sales. E.g. promotion was minor; and the number of iPods sold went from 28 million by the end of 2005, to 226 million by the end of 2008. I'm gonna guess that was one factor (among many) for an increase in song sales volume. 3) eMusic has sold DRM-free MP3's for years and years. Care to guess what their sales are like? 4) DRM in various forms is still a huge component of digital content, even materials distributed by Apple. E.g. the billion-plus apps sold for the iPhone are all restricted; iTunes videos are still restricted; video games, DVD's, Blu-Ray, computer applications and so forth, none of that has changed. 5) Music has a significant issue with digital distribution, namely they released their entire catalog for years in an unprotected digital medium (CD's); so it's a snap to rip an album and share it. The horse was out the gate and long gone by the time they started selling DRM-free tracks. Books don't quite have that issue. Despite the numerous similarities between ebook and digital music sales, I do not see any indication -- and nothing new -- that "DRM seems to be losing." |
11-19-2009, 07:59 PM | #20 | |
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So it could be that the increase in iTunes music sales was what caused them to go DRM-free. Or it could be that both factors were caused by a third. Or, it could be as claimed, that going DRM-free caused the increase in sales. Pick whichever one of those makes the most sense. |
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11-19-2009, 09:30 PM | #21 | |
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Will it work for books or films? I'm guessing films and TV shows will inevitably follow music. I don't have the same optimism for books, if only because that industry seems even slower to react than Hollywood. Love to be proven wrong, of course. And eMusic always had one problem-lack of mainstream content. Their catalog never came close to the other online offerings, although they have some great independent labels-I've been a member for years. |
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I've also seen estimates that illegal/infringing music downloads for 2008 as high as 40 billion tracks. Even if the figures are off, I don't think there's much proof that a flourishing DRM-free music retail offering is substantially reducing piracy. That said, I don't think there is solid evidence that the two largest digital music vendors going DRM-free has either hurt or helped sales. I'm not even sure you could get reliable data on the matter -- I don't think it's a clear-cut issue. Quote:
Granted it isn't hard to rip and share video, but it requires a heck of a lot more bandwidth, it's rare to stream pirated video, DRM has minimal effect on streaming services; video codecs are also a bit of a mess. As to books, right now I just don't see the same kind of pressures as you had in music; e.g. the back catalog that has been pirated just isn't as extensive as it is for music. Quote:
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11-20-2009, 05:38 AM | #23 | |
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Sales were already falling before music distribution on the web really kicked in, and the labels shot themselves in the foot when they let Apple sell individual tracks cheaply, killing off the album. |
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11-20-2009, 07:46 AM | #24 | |
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So, unless it was some mp3 without DRM , no point in buying someting i can't read. Buying CD's ? most of, ended up in "yuck, 20 euro ??? ". Never mind, i can live without that. Being able to get mp3 at a resonable prise mean i went buying music again. |
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And returning to the initial assertion that "DRM is losing," have punter's habits changed at all based on DRM, or the introduction of streaming services like Pandora or Spotify? After all, if the shift away from DRM is a key component in the increase in digital sales, shouldn't we see a proportionate decline in infringing downloads? Lots of questions, and I'm not seeing any solid answers yet.... |
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So what good was the DRM? |
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But there are other uses for DRM that are successful. |
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Yes, and quite bluntly, given the way Apple uses DRM liberally on other products, I simply don't believe him. He's taking advantage of the fact that EMI were telling him they wanted to put up their music DRM free.
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Their software mostly has installation codes to enter, like nearly all software, but iLife and iWorks '09 do not. Apple do not have any other retail IP products. All their other material -- music, audio books, tv shows, movies, iPod apps, is licensed from other parties. And by and large, those parties are still insisting on DRM. Apple are controlling, especially when it comes to the integration of hardware & software. But they're not DRM enthusiasts. |
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No? I must of mistaken their case against Psistar which was based around their DRM, when they could of handled it on other grounds. That's not enthusiasm, true, it's fanaticism. DRM is gone from their music, but isn't gone from much of the other content they provide, their actions with the iPhone show their addiction to DRM and control clearly as well...
Okay, yes, DRM is just a vehicle for their control addiction, but it's the visible fist of it. Last edited by DawnFalcon; 11-20-2009 at 06:08 PM. |
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