11-20-2008, 03:56 PM | #31 |
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Would anyone here second Jack McDevitt? I enjoy his hard SF books, even though they might not be in the same league as some of the writers mentioned so far.
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11-20-2008, 11:51 PM | #32 |
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I've read one of McDevitt's books, "Omega", and enjoyed it. I'll have to add the name to my huge list now. What have you read of his that you like? Infinity Beach sounds interesting.
And, I would definitely put the authors on the forum up on my list of to be reads - is there anywhere else I can get Gary Gibson's book, "Stealing Light" - other than waterstones? And, in regards to "Inferior" - the topic wasn't quite my "taste" :-) but the initial chapter drew me in unexpectedly. I look forward to reading it if I can find a copy that is non-kindle. |
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11-21-2008, 07:27 AM | #34 |
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11-21-2008, 07:29 AM | #35 |
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Dan Simmons' Hyperion series is FABULOUS. I've been reading Sci Fi for over 40 years.
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Then you can remember the splash he made with Song of Kali, which went on to win the World Fantasy Award for Best Novel. I believe (if memory is correct), Hyperion won the Hugo and Nebula awards for Best Novel, as well. Don |
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Hard Science Fiction, as opposed to other kinds (and not to suggest the other kinds are any less worthy of reading) has to, imho meet a couple of criteria.
1. Science has to be somehow integral to the plot. This does not necessarily mean that Hard Science Fiction can only be about the science, but rather the science presented in the story has to be a necessary ingredient to the story (i.e. if you can replace your spaceships with cop cars, air force fighters or ships at sea and the story still essentially makes sense, and those are the Science Fiction elements in your story, then you don't have Hard SF.). 2. The science that is a necessary ingredient to the story has to accurate to the best knowledge of the writer of the story (At the very least a plausible extrapolation of known science). In other words, if you are writing now, you can't have ships simply accelerate past the speed of light, but you could have if you were writing in the 19th century. Now this does not necessarily mean that every piece of science in the story has to be 100% accurate; certain elements like FTL drives tend to be gimmies simply because they allow the characters to get to the spot of the action. As a general rule, most science fiction is not Hard Science Fiction. Not saying it isn't good, just that it isn't Hard Science Fiction. -- Bill |
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Gotcha! Thanks Bill & Don
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I do not like Dan Simmons and Jack McDevitt. Very-very slow paced.
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The funny thing is, you can sometimes take bigger leaps when you take the trouble to get the science right. Greg Bear's Darwin's Radio is a good example of this. He took the time to get the background science right before he started working with his speculations. While not a thriller like Jurassic Park, the ideas in it seem more radical. -- Bill |
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11-21-2008, 02:23 PM | #43 |
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I highly recommend McDevitt's books. I've read most of them so far, and I've enjoyed them more than most books I've read in the past few years, because he has a unique vision of the future that I appreciate.
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Another good hard SF series would be Nancy Kress' Beggars trilogy: Beggars in Spain; Beggars and Choosers; and Beggars Ride. |
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11-22-2008, 07:24 AM | #45 |
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I'm always amused by the language of debate and find that many of the definitions - as they are explained - amusing, indeed -- amusing in a good, healthy way, and not demeaning to anyone here.
Pehaps we should be thankful for Theodore Sturgeon's definition (paraphrased): "Science Fiction is what you find in the library marked 'Science Fiction'." I still want to be amused, however, so I'm waiting for more definitions to follow. I'm surprised, though, that no one has shaken this moth-eaten carpet out the window to air: "Science Fiction is just technological Fantasy." Don |
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