E Ink displays are very durable

tech_au · 05-01-2009, 07:37 PM

There's a great video of a guy seeing how much abuse an eink screen can withstand before it stops working.
Goto: http://www.e-ink-info.com/e-ink-disp...e-very-durable for a chuckle or two

snipenekkid · 05-01-2009, 07:48 PM

holy crap that is PRICELESS, well worth the price of admission!! PVI or whoever made that display should be cranking up the assembly line as fast as they can since that is the sort of display I suspect most people are holding out for, even if the contrast is still so-so. As long as the display is going to last, working around lighting inside might be well worth it.

Anyone know the actual size of that screen? Looks like about half the size of a 5" display, maybe a tad less...hard to imagine that the mag paid much for them. Also equally hard to imagine the mfg just gave them away as marketing overhead too. Somewhere in the middle is probably the answer but no matter they did not cost $30 ea. (half the reported actual cost of the K2 display) as many would have have people believe. I would go for $5 but that is about it.

sirbruce · 05-01-2009, 08:02 PM

Crazy.

snipenekkid · 05-01-2009, 08:43 PM

seriously that is the most amazing video. I mean the guy drilled holes in the thing and unless it hit a main circuit nothing happened beyond a hole in the display, it just "kept on ticking". Maybe Timex is the real mfg?

Andybaby · 05-02-2009, 12:12 AM

too bad they don't have those screens inside the current devices, if you do that to the SONY or Kindle or ILIAD or anything else, It will shatter the glass substrate and you have a very expensive brick cause its not covered under warrenty

Dylrob · 05-02-2009, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Andybaby

too bad they don't have those screens inside the current devices, if you do that to the SONY or Kindle or ILIAD or anything else, It will shatter the glass substrate and you have a very expensive brick cause its not covered under warrenty

Tell me about it...

Dylrob · 05-02-2009, 01:53 AM

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CleverClothe · 05-03-2009, 07:51 PM

Yea, that video was posted last fall. Interesting stuff.

Shaggy · 05-04-2009, 10:06 AM

That's a little misleading. It's not the eInk layer that breaks on most devices. The screen from the video is the same eInk that is already used in most eInk devices.

Andybaby · 05-04-2009, 12:43 PM

that is most defenatly not the same screen that is one Eink Devices.

the sony and the kindle both use Eink with a glass substrate.

the screen in the video uses a Plastic Substrate which is a whole lot tougher. its not the Bendable Plastic Substrate though, but it held up suprisingly well to bending.

Shaggy · 05-04-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Andybaby

that is most defenatly not the same screen that is one Eink Devices.

the sony and the kindle both use Eink with a glass substrate.

the screen in the video uses a Plastic Substrate which is a whole lot tougher. its not the Bendable Plastic Substrate though, but it held up suprisingly well to bending.

I believe the substrate that you're talking about is under the eInk layer on most device screens. The screens are made up of several different layers, the actual eInk is the same in the video as on current devices. It's the other layers involved that tend to break.

Andybaby · 05-04-2009, 10:00 PM

Huh?

Of course they are both Eink, but they are totally different.

The substrate is what holds the circuitry and all the other stuff that makes it work. they are totally different screens even if they are both Eink.

thibaulthalpern · 05-04-2009, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy

That's a little misleading. It's not the eInk layer that breaks on most devices. The screen from the video is the same eInk that is already used in most eInk devices.

Totally agree with you that it's misleading.

GoneNova · 05-04-2009, 11:02 PM

A couple of days ago my Cybook slipped out of it's cover and fell to the concrete floor at work. The SD card flew out, and when I picked it up, and tried to put the card back in, I dropped it again! I thought I'd killed it, but I put the card in, snapped the side seam closed-it only separated a little- and turned it on. Works great and I didn't even have to reset it. I consider myself extremely lucky. I have to do something about the cover- after almost a year and half of use it's gotten pretty loose.
The really scary thing is that I think the page turn is better now.

GeoffC · 05-05-2009, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GoneNova

A couple of days ago my Cybook slipped out of it's cover and fell to the concrete floor at work. The SD card flew out, and when I picked it up, and tried to put the card back in, I dropped it again! I thought I'd killed it, but I put the card in, snapped the side seam closed-it only separated a little- and turned it on. Works great and I didn't even have to reset it. I consider myself extremely lucky. I have to do something about the cover- after almost a year and half of use it's gotten pretty loose.
The really scary thing is that I think the page turn is better now.

05-01-2009, 07:37 PM	#1
tech_au Oz Bookworm Posts: 516 Karma: 4056 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Australia Device: Sony PRS 505,PRS 650	E Ink displays are very durable There's a great video of a guy seeing how much abuse an eink screen can withstand before it stops working. Goto: http://www.e-ink-info.com/e-ink-disp...e-very-durable for a chuckle or two

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05-01-2009, 07:48 PM	#2
snipenekkid Banned Posts: 760 Karma: 51034 Join Date: Feb 2009	holy crap that is PRICELESS, well worth the price of admission!! PVI or whoever made that display should be cranking up the assembly line as fast as they can since that is the sort of display I suspect most people are holding out for, even if the contrast is still so-so. As long as the display is going to last, working around lighting inside might be well worth it. Anyone know the actual size of that screen? Looks like about half the size of a 5" display, maybe a tad less...hard to imagine that the mag paid much for them. Also equally hard to imagine the mfg just gave them away as marketing overhead too. Somewhere in the middle is probably the answer but no matter they did not cost $30 ea. (half the reported actual cost of the K2 display) as many would have have people believe. I would go for $5 but that is about it.

05-01-2009, 08:02 PM	#3
sirbruce Provocateur Posts: 1,859 Karma: 505847 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Device: Kindle Touch, Kindle 2, Kindle DX, iPhone 3GS	Crazy.

05-01-2009, 08:43 PM	#4
snipenekkid Banned Posts: 760 Karma: 51034 Join Date: Feb 2009	seriously that is the most amazing video. I mean the guy drilled holes in the thing and unless it hit a main circuit nothing happened beyond a hole in the display, it just "kept on ticking". Maybe Timex is the real mfg?

05-02-2009, 12:12 AM	#5
Andybaby Wizard Posts: 1,279 Karma: 1002683 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New York Device: PRS-700	too bad they don't have those screens inside the current devices, if you do that to the SONY or Kindle or ILIAD or anything else, It will shatter the glass substrate and you have a very expensive brick cause its not covered under warrenty

05-02-2009, 01:53 AM	#7
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05-03-2009, 07:51 PM	#8
CleverClothe Guru Posts: 618 Karma: 493394 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Device: iRex iLiad, Onyx Boox 60	Yea, that video was posted last fall. Interesting stuff.

05-04-2009, 10:06 AM	#9
Shaggy Wizard Posts: 4,293 Karma: 529619 Join Date: May 2007 Device: iRex iLiad, DR800SG	That's a little misleading. It's not the eInk layer that breaks on most devices. The screen from the video is the same eInk that is already used in most eInk devices.

05-04-2009, 12:43 PM	#10
Andybaby Wizard Posts: 1,279 Karma: 1002683 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New York Device: PRS-700	that is most defenatly not the same screen that is one Eink Devices. the sony and the kindle both use Eink with a glass substrate. the screen in the video uses a Plastic Substrate which is a whole lot tougher. its not the Bendable Plastic Substrate though, but it held up suprisingly well to bending.

05-04-2009, 10:00 PM	#12
Andybaby Wizard Posts: 1,279 Karma: 1002683 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New York Device: PRS-700	Huh? Of course they are both Eink, but they are totally different. The substrate is what holds the circuitry and all the other stuff that makes it work. they are totally different screens even if they are both Eink.

05-04-2009, 11:02 PM	#14
GoneNova Enthusiast Posts: 44 Karma: 64 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: PA, USA Device: Kindle 4,Kobo Aura, Kobo Aura One, Libra2	A couple of days ago my Cybook slipped out of it's cover and fell to the concrete floor at work. The SD card flew out, and when I picked it up, and tried to put the card back in, I dropped it again! I thought I'd killed it, but I put the card in, snapped the side seam closed-it only separated a little- and turned it on. Works great and I didn't even have to reset it. I consider myself extremely lucky. I have to do something about the cover- after almost a year and half of use it's gotten pretty loose. The really scary thing is that I think the page turn is better now.

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