Set First Page - Page 4

HarryT · 05-17-2015, 08:20 AM

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JSWolf · 05-17-2015, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Turtle91

I can't stand it when people force me to read it in full justification....
I just can't stand the "rivers of white space" on a small screen.

Luckily, my device has a settings option where I can quickly flip to the view of my choice.

On a Kindle, there's a way to fix those gaps. Just use the Hyphenate This! plugin. It adds soft hyphens and the Kindle software respects soft hyphens. Searching even works. This would give you hyphens and eliminate most of the gaps.

JSWolf · 05-17-2015, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

The topic of this thread is "how to set the first page in an ePub book". Please take the off-topic discussions to the Lounge.

Thank you.

The thread has run its course as there is no way to have an ePub eBook start at a different page other than the first page of the eBook.

exaltedwombat · 05-17-2015, 03:33 PM

I know you argue for the sake of arguing. JSWolf :-) Indeed, the first page is the first page. But there may be ways of, more or less reliably, persuading certain readers to start elsewhere on first opening. It's a valid topic for discussion.

JSWolf · 05-17-2015, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by exaltedwombat

I know you argue for the sake of arguing. JSWolf :-) Indeed, the first page is the first page. But there may be ways of, more or less reliably, persuading certain readers to start elsewhere on first opening. It's a valid topic for discussion.

I'm not arguing. I'm just responding to HarryT saying this thread is off-topic. I've used a number of different reading apps (not all based on RMDSK) and none of them have ever start an ePub on a different page other than the cover page. And that is using ePub that as supposed to be set to start after the cover. I'm not saying there isn't such a program, but if there is, someone please mention it.

jackie_w · 05-17-2015, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

I'm not arguing. I'm just responding to HarryT saying this thread is off-topic. I've used a number of different reading apps (not all based on RMDSK) and none of them have ever start an ePub on a different page other than the cover page. And that is using ePub that as supposed to be set to start after the cover. I'm not saying there isn't such a program, but if there is, someone please mention it.

Not really true, Jon. Kobos, including yours, open unread epubs to the page corresponding to the first entry in the TOC (ncx version). I find this to be a bit of a PITA but I suppose it could also be made to work to one's advantage.

Notjohn · 05-18-2015, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jackie_w

Not really true, Jon. Kobos, including yours, open unread epubs to the page corresponding to the first entry in the TOC (ncx version). I find this to be a bit of a PITA but I suppose it could also be made to work to one's advantage.

Thanks for that! That workaround had been recommended to me, but it failed on my Kindle K3 and Fire HD. Nice to know it works for Kobo, so maybe I'll use it again. One could put the TOC in front of the title page and link to that, tee hee.

Arios · 05-18-2015, 02:32 PM

A brief comment.

DiapDealer and NotJohn, your answers (post # 17 and 22) among others deserved a reply from me, but I held back because I had the impression of being off-topic (maybe not according to JSWolf...).

A new thread directly linked to the "coercive forces" (traditions, habitus, prestige, etc.) exerted by the printed book on digital book might be interesting.

JSWolf · 05-22-2015, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jackie_w

Not really true, Jon. Kobos, including yours, open unread epubs to the page corresponding to the first entry in the TOC (ncx version). I find this to be a bit of a PITA but I suppose it could also be made to work to one's advantage.

Not so. I've plenty of ePub that do not have an NCX entry for the cover and yet on my H2O, every single one I've opened with the H2O have started at the first page which is the cover.

davidfor · 05-22-2015, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Not so. I've plenty of ePub that do not have an NCX entry for the cover and yet on my H2O, every single one I've opened with the H2O have started at the first page which is the cover.

Well, you have a special Aura H2O. All of my Kobo devices open epubs to the first ToC entry. And I just checked. I usually add an entry for the cover, so I had to dig out a couple of unedited books that had the first chapter as the first ToC entry. Both opened to it.

jackie_w · 05-22-2015, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Not so. I've plenty of ePub that do not have an NCX entry for the cover and yet on my H2O, every single one I've opened with the H2O have started at the first page which is the cover.

I often wonder how well you test your pet theories before stating them as gospel.

I've just taken the first 4 epubs I could find in my calibre library whose first TOC entry is not the page 1 cover page. None have ever been on my H2O before. After sending them to the H2O and opening them for the first time, without fail all 4 opened to the first TOC entry, not the cover page. Once the book is reopened there are no such restrictions and it will remember your previous page no matter whether it was in the TOC or not.

So, I conclude that either you're wrong or you've managed to buy a 'special H2O' not available to the rest of us.

ETA: Ninja'd, again

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05-17-2015, 08:20 AM	#46
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Moderator Notice The topic of this thread is "how to set the first page in an ePub book". Please take the off-topic discussions to the Lounge. Thank you.

05-17-2015, 03:33 PM	#49
exaltedwombat Guru Posts: 878 Karma: 2457540 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: none	I know you argue for the sake of arguing. JSWolf :-) Indeed, the first page is the first page. But there may be ways of, more or less reliably, persuading certain readers to start elsewhere on first opening. It's a valid topic for discussion.

05-18-2015, 02:32 PM	#53
Arios A curiosus lector! Posts: 463 Karma: 2015140 Join Date: Jun 2012 Device: Sony PRS-T1, Kobo Touch	A brief comment. DiapDealer and NotJohn, your answers (post # 17 and 22) among others deserved a reply from me, but I held back because I had the impression of being off-topic (maybe not according to JSWolf...). A new thread directly linked to the "coercive forces" (traditions, habitus, prestige, etc.) exerted by the printed book on digital book might be interesting.