03-23-2010, 09:10 AM | #46 | |
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Not really. The power of automation.... For example, what if, say JK Rowling wanted all copies of her titles deleted off all Kindles everywhere. Convince Amazon, plug in a data string, punch a button and there you go. Nothing personal, everybody got hammered... That's the point of the Kindle setup. You grant a push window for amazon to do basically anything they wish. Now they may not wish much, but it's their choice, not yours. Nor do you have to be singled out, you just have to be in the target zone (sic). |
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Under the agreement which you've signed up to, though, they have the right to.
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I accept that some people are not concerned about what Amazon might or might not do with their Kindles. Thats's fine - I don't feel any need to question their sanity or cast aspersions on their personalities. What I don't accept is that those same people question my sanity and cast aspersions on my personality because I do have concerns.
Neither I, nor I suspect the pro-Kindle contributors to this thread, apparently actually know what Amazon can do, has done or will do with the data on Kindles. But attempting to ridicule both the concerns and the people who have them is singularly unhelpful. What would be useful is information about Amazon's capabilities to interact with devices and evidence about how they have exercised any such capability. |
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03-23-2010, 01:54 PM | #51 | |
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Okay, which of the other online bookstores has an agreement involving this level of tracking?
Also, this is a books site, which you may not have noticed, so...yea, discussing booksellers. Simply because some records are out there does not excuse a company from being overly broad in the details it records about you. You mention things like banks and medical records...where there are laws specifying tight access and security parameters for storing the data. Amazon has none of those. You're smokescreening on an issue some people feel strongly about. |
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Amazon removed the books from Kindles at the request of publishers, in the case of "1984", due to a copyright issue, and in my mind they did the right thing, but not in the right method, and they learned from that. Probably no other bookseller will repeat that. |
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03-23-2010, 02:30 PM | #54 | |
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Some things you can't help, but why open the door for everybody as a matter of policy? What level of paranoia do you want to be at? I keep locks on my doors. They won't stop a pro thief, I know that. I'm just discouraging the amateurs. It might be more convenient (to use an old example) to give the milkman the key to the house so he puts the milk directly in the fridge, instead of on the doorstep, but for security reasons, I'll pick it up myself. Nor do I think that this concept is being overly paranoid. Your mileage may differ... What I find interesting is the number of people who really don't care who economically (or legally) stalks them. I just hope they don't get their eyes opened the hard way.... |
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Well .. do you strip in public? Would you read your diary (provided you are keeping one) out loud on a marketplace? Do you want your neighbors, colleagues and your boss to listen to every phonecall you are doing, reading every email you write, etc?
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And I don't own any Apple devices, so have now idea what access they would require to them if I did. Last edited by TGS; 03-23-2010 at 03:32 PM. |
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For me, it would be messing about with the content that would be the worry, rather than recording purchases. I'd hate to be half-way through reading something and have it disappear. The practical answer would be to remove DRM etc. and squirrel a copy away, I suppose, were that legal.
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Just because you're happy, as Sanya Thomas put it, hanging your ass out online, doesn't mean everyone is. People are different, and what you dismiss is very important to other people. Cavalierly dismissing people's objections on privacy because of your own views is closed minded. Last edited by DawnFalcon; 03-23-2010 at 05:43 PM. |
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Read the agreement.
"information related to the content on your Device and your use of it" Not "content you have bought from us", "content on your device". Remember, I am not talking about what Amazon does, I am talking about what the agreement allows them to do. |
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