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Old 01-20-2012, 06:35 PM   #46
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There are plenty of educational facilities other than the US ones that could see a use for this as well. Not everyone thinks the world stops at the US border.
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:06 PM   #47
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I presume you all have also read this little nugget (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/20/apple_ibooks/), which talks about an interesting wrinkle in the EULA if you use iBooks Author.
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I've been watching the rumors about this and with today's announcement I'm itching to play with the new iBooks Author application. I want to create a set of ebooks that are heavy on pictures and navigation and this looks like just what I've been dreaming about.

But, I'm a complete n00b to this authoring business. I downloaded Sigil a couple weeks ago and played with it some. I also played with Apple's Pages which exports to epub. Both left a lot to be desired for what I want.

So... Opinions? I'd love to hear what people who have actually created ebooks have to say.
I've been a college teacher for 7 years, and an Apple fan for 25 years. I like Apple's idea for their Ipad, but all the bells and whistles sound like it will be very expensive to have their style of book built. Making videos, finding pictures, creating or locating web links, sounds like a lot of work. I can't see many college teachers wanting to create that kind of book themselves. I'm not sure how Apple can keep the price of the books down to what they are hoping for.
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Old 01-21-2012, 12:17 AM   #50
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I presume you all have also read this little nugget (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/20/apple_ibooks/), which talks about an interesting wrinkle in the EULA if you use iBooks Author.
Now please don't think I'm Mr Smarty Pants but if you were expecting me to be shocked that by using Apple's free software I have to sell the product through Apple exclusively. If so you are mistaken. Apple did this with apps and magazine and any other subscription thingy that they could control in iTunes.

The program only works on a Mac and designed to be read on only Apple products using iBooks 2. Why would I think otherwise.
At present you can't publish on iBooks without a Macintosh. So for publishers selling through iBooks already it's a winner because it should reduce production time and provide enhanced features for the target audience I am already aiming at.

For Amazon, B&N, Sony, Google and Nook it business as usual. ePubs and Mobis.
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Old 01-21-2012, 07:41 AM   #51
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Probably a win for those few that actually use iBookstore. It'll probably go over like a lead ballon for the rest of the world.
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Old 01-21-2012, 08:25 AM   #52
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Probably a win for those few that actually use iBookstore. It'll probably go over like a lead ballon for the rest of the world.
It's only currently available in the US.
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Old 01-21-2012, 10:54 AM   #53
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I presume you all have also read this little nugget (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/20/apple_ibooks/), which talks about an interesting wrinkle in the EULA if you use iBooks Author.
Oh, THAT is lovely.
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Old 01-21-2012, 01:10 PM   #54
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Tablet computers being used by students for reading, writing, submitting homework, research, etc. is a no-brainer. It is inevitable. No reason for Amazon not to have a share of that.

The big news in this for me is that Amazon has got some major textbook publishers to commit to re-designing their textbooks as tablet apps rather than print books.

Up until now, the conventional wisdom has been that e-readers are most suitable for reading novels: all text, all the time, from start to finish. Text books, among other p-applications, have not been seen as a good "fit:" they have charts, graphics, and pictures to go with that text, and you might jump around within the text, constantly going back to this table or that glossary or some answer key.

So, kudos to Amazon for using its clout to nudge the big publishers in the inevitable direction. It's past time, I say.

By the same token, I'm puzzled by those who poo-poo new standards with all their bells and whistles: embedded videos, mp3's, animated graphics, whatever. In the future, I take it for granted that people will carry tablets or slates for school, work, leisure, etc., and among other things they'll be reading novels on those devices with little or no eyestrain.

Between now and then, there will be some heavy-handed, awkward, misguided, mistimed, mispriced, whatever developments and diversions getting from where we are now to where we will be then. But there are profits for whomever can grab market share now if they can hold on to some of that for later.

I've seen schools now that issue computers or Kindles to their students, but there's no 500-pound gorilla of educational computing. If Apple gets a jump on tablets for educational use, that's something.
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Old 01-21-2012, 01:42 PM   #55
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Tablet computers being used by students for reading, writing, submitting homework, research, etc. is a no-brainer. It is inevitable. No reason for Amazon not to have a share of that.

The big news in this for me is that Amazon has got some major textbook publishers to commit to re-designing their textbooks as tablet apps rather than print books.
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So, kudos to Amazon for using its clout to nudge the big publishers in the inevitable direction. It's past time, I say.
I think you mean Apple rather than Amazon here?
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Old 01-21-2012, 01:59 PM   #56
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Yeah, I meant Apple, but anyone capable would work just as well.
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The content that can be created with this software can only be used with iOS devices and may only be sold via Apple. Publishers and educational institutions would be insane to sign up for such a scheme, shoveling revenue towards Apple for no identifiable reason. Any public school or university signing up for this should get a visit from the public accounting office asap.
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Probably a win for those few that actually use iBookstore. It'll probably go over like a lead ballon for the rest of the world.
Itunes is our second biggest seller of books behind Amazon and sell more than twenty times B&N, Sony, Kobo and Google put together.

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It's only currently available in the US.
That's a worry. I've set aside some of today to experiment.
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The content that can be created with this software can only be used with iOS devices and may only be sold via Apple. Publishers and educational institutions would be insane to sign up for such a scheme, shoveling revenue towards Apple for no identifiable reason. Any public school or university signing up for this should get a visit from the public accounting office asap.
For no identifiable reason? What about the fact that it is an easy way to e-books in the hands of students...and there are no other alternatives?

I mean, I'm a little skeptical that technology will help much with education - but getting righteously indignant over this program when no one else has done anything like it seems misplaced.

Would students be better off if Apple did nothing? I don't think so.
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The content that can be created with this software can only be used with iOS devices and may only be sold via Apple. Publishers and educational institutions would be insane to sign up for such a scheme, shoveling revenue towards Apple for no identifiable reason. Any public school or university signing up for this should get a visit from the public accounting office asap.
I've seen schools fall for crazier and stupider programs that only ended up wasting large quantities of taxpayer money. You have to remember, that modern education is based around whatever the latest teaching gimmick is, not what actually works. If you could get a college professor to teach that students could only learn when the teachers were wearing Godzilla costumes, you'd see a lot of teachers going around dressed like Kaiju monsters.

On the other hand, Apple has been one of the "better" ones for putting technology into classrooms and finding "educational" uses for it. As a kid, I can remember the old Apples for the Students program- much as my mom didn't approve of it- and seeing vast labs of Apple IIe and //c computers. MS didn't get that focus until recently, when it started getting schools to offer MS Office 07 in business classes.
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