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10-20-2014, 03:59 PM | #49 |
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Godwin's Law. "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1." If the person or organization under discussion hasn't actually murdered millions of people, then "playing the Hitler card" means you automatically lose the argument.
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10-20-2014, 04:13 PM | #51 | |
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Does that mean we can close all the "Amazon is evil" threads now? Last edited by RDaneel54; 10-20-2014 at 04:43 PM. Reason: Changed or to for. Duh! |
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10-20-2014, 04:27 PM | #52 |
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Amazon never was evil in this case. It was Hatchette that was being evil. If Amazon gave in to Hatchette, Hatchette would not be beck to agency pricing. That is evil, not Amazon trying to stop agency (predatory) pricing.
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10-20-2014, 07:37 PM | #54 | |
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10-20-2014, 08:11 PM | #55 | |
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10-20-2014, 08:40 PM | #56 | |
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One might forgive obedience to an evil law if your family will otherwise starve. That's hardly the case here. Amazon does not have a moral obligation to make a profit. I think Jeff Bezos and I would agree on that. They have no business obeying evil laws. Of course, I don't think price maintenance is evil. Last edited by SteveEisenberg; 10-20-2014 at 08:58 PM. |
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I can't follow your reasoning. There is a fundamental difference between business negotiations and laws. We are not talking about civil right movements here.
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The first rule, however, is that you accept the consequences of breaking the law, and you do so without whining about unfair it all is. You accept the possibility of ruinous civil judgments, and even the possibility of prison time, depending on what law you are disobeying. Without. Whining. You do your time proudly, as an example to others. To do otherwise hurts the cause. [QUOTE=SteveEisenberg;2953295]Amazon does not have a moral obligation to make a profit.[QUOTE=SteveEisenberg;2953295] Being a publicly traded company, however, they do have a legal obligation to do so. Or, rather than "make a profit," to "protect shareholder value," however that is collectively defined by Bezos, his executive staff, and their shareholders. So far, that's been "build market share across every market they can think of." CEOs have gone to prison for ignoring that obligation. I'm sure Bezos, and his army of lawyers, would agree that the legal obligation comes first. Business is exactly what they have. |
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10-21-2014, 02:39 AM | #59 | |
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In fact, some people are. And while I sympathize with their principles - the whole "knowledge wants to be free" thing, and the right to educate oneself, and the idea that culture can't be owned - their approach to their cause is childish and unrealistic. And their goals would be far more damaging to culture than the current situation. So it's hard to take them seriously. |
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10-21-2014, 06:40 AM | #60 | |
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To your second point: I was just talking about this specific comparison, regarding the german price fixing law. That's the reason why I can not see any similarities to a civil rights movement. And even if somebody does so, the point still stands, that even then fighting a law and fighting in a business negotiation is very different. |
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