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I could be wrong... but it rather seems to me that "history" (as little of it as is relevant) mostly supports my suggestion. Don't you think? - Ahi |
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09-14-2009, 11:15 PM | #32 | |
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But my point is there's a much bigger market for portable devices that can surf the net, do e-mail, watch movies, etc. etc. than there is for readers. Look at the iPhone success. Or how many more Nintendo DS's have been sold than eReaders etc. Or netbooks. And some of those people who buy a tablet for other reasons may by some books on it too (just like some buy books with the Kindle app on the iPhone) and thus can expand the e-book market beyond tech inclined book worms. |
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09-14-2009, 11:18 PM | #33 | |
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The iPhone might be successful against other cell phones. But how successful is it against dedicated mp3 players? And how successful will it be 5 years from now? Will people repurchase their portable music library every year and a half when they need a cell phone until they die? The greatest benefit of a multi-purpose device is also its greatest weakness. The moment one of its functions become obsolete... its other ones are gone as well when the update happens. - Ahi |
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09-14-2009, 11:25 PM | #34 |
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What? They can just load their songs on their new iPhone or whatever they buy in a few years. No need to repurchase any songs, any more than there is when upgrading to a newer iPod Nano every few years.
All technology is always in flux and needs replaced every 5 years at a minimum for people who want to stay current. Whether that's a multifunction device or a single purpose device. My Kindle 1 will be obsolete in a few years when there are color e-ink devices out that don't suck ass at magazines, newspapers, letter sized PDFs etc. So I'll want a new one even if I stick with a dedicated reader. Single purpose devices have the advantage of doing that one function typically better than multifunction devices. Multifunction devices offer convenience of doing several task the user needs without having to lug around multiple devices. I'll take convenience over quality in this case since I spend lot of time surfing the net, watching movies, watching TV and sports, reading books, reading magazines, reading and marking up PDFs, grading student papers etc. etc. and would kill for a 10" or so tablet device that could do all that stuff. Last edited by dmaul1114; 09-14-2009 at 11:53 PM. |
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Well, I think this comparison is not right. Nintendo DS is an almost dedicated machine (I don't know if really dedicated, I haven't used it ). You don't sell more here because is multi-purpose but, sadly, because there're more gamers than readers.
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09-15-2009, 04:50 AM | #36 | |
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In addition to that I'm using the DS as organiser and mp3-player and occasional gaming but way less than reading (a matter of age I guess). So I think the comparison is ok but probably no one would buy a DS for just reading, except me. But maybe, if you consider the price tag. Including the homebrew hardware it was about 60% of the Sony reader in 2007. hansl Last edited by hansl; 09-15-2009 at 05:07 AM. |
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I think the multipurpose device is mainly a marketing device that allows manufacturer to sell their products for higher prices. People end up buying several multi-purpose devices that they use for specialized purposes.
I remember 20 years ago, the future of home entertainment was supposed to be a multi-purpose device that would be a TV, computer and gaming platform. I had trouble believing this at the time. And now, what do we have? Gaming platforms and computers that can show movies. How many of these multi-purpose devices does every one of us own? And how many uses does each one of them serve? Nowadays it's practically impossible to buy a mobile phone that doesn't take photos, except for the very low end of the market. Have sales of digital cameras plunged because of that? No, because most people still want a camera, even if they occasionally use their mobile phones to take quick photos. The main beneficiaries of multi-purpose gizmos are the manufacturers, who get us to buy more expensive gadgets with more non-essential functionalities. I'm sure e-readers will get more functionalities. Will we really benefit from them? Maybe, marginally. Will the manufaturers benefit? Probably, but on the other hand they are creating more pressure to make devices that do everything, which increases costs. Competition nowadays seem to be more and more on non-essential and eventually costly improvements. Just my 2 cents Last edited by FlorenceArt; 09-15-2009 at 05:35 AM. |
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You also see things like blackberries intended for companies that don't allow camera phones due to security, so there's an example of a niche market being big enough for a hardware manufacturer to address it.
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I don't. And my DVD player is getting close to 10 years old. - Ahi Last edited by ahi; 09-15-2009 at 11:42 AM. |
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09-15-2009, 01:11 PM | #41 | |
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Where I personally need/want multifunction devices are portable gadgets I carry around with me. The more a device can do, the less stupid gadgets I have to carry around to have my calender/contacts (Palm Pilot), music (mp3 players), movies/TV/sports (nothing currently since I don't carry my laptop), books (Kindle--which I don't carry), PDFs (nothing suitable for my needs currently) etc. with me everywhere I go. But I'll concede maybe I was too strong. Maybe dedicated readers will always have a place for you bookworms. I'll leave mine behind as soon as there's a 9-10" tablet that does everything I want well around $500. Last edited by dmaul1114; 09-15-2009 at 01:14 PM. |
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Isn't it somewhat contradictory for you to be complaining about carrying multiple gadgets around and indeed choosing not to do so, while at the same time being so eagerly awaiting something that would weigh as much as the rest (minus the laptop) put together.
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Your theoretical device is a... 1) a reasonable sounding eBook reading device, unless of course it's a light-emitting screen, which will induce greater eye-strain to all buy the jetbook-owning population 2) a music player with an unpleasantly large form factor (arguably no longer portable, by the standards of music player portability) 3) an exceedingly small (albeit larger than tiny) screened video player with almost certainly enough battery line for two movies, if that many. And possibly not LOTR Extended Edition two movies either. 4) a decent internet browsing device, no doubt 5) a fairly poor general purpose computer, given that it has either a cramped netbook style keyboard or only an on-screen one All but one of those items are not something I've any interest in owning. Ever. - Ahi |
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But for things I use more--pcs, PDAs, cell phones, dvd/blu ray players, TVs etc. I upgrade pretty often. Quote:
Other features like music, movies, games etc. would just be icing on the cake and only used on airplanes etc. in place of having to bring a portable DVD player or my MP3 player etc. since I'd already have the tablet with me for work and internet. Eyestrain is a mild concern, but I VERY rarely read for more than 30-60 minutes at a time, so it's a bit of a moot point for me. And most of the longer sessions are work reading. Leisure reading is just a couple chapters before sleeping at night as I enjoy things like TV, sports, movies, music and video games more than reading when I have free time at home. |
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