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Old 12-05-2009, 11:34 AM   #16
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Old 12-05-2009, 12:10 PM   #17
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Me either. I've look at this from all sides and I just don't see a more compelling circumstance for the publishers.
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Fictionwise already sells short stories, and has been for years. My sister has a ton of them. And I think you handing the ebook 'prize' to Amazon is a little premature. If you read the buzz these days, it's all about 'Kindle, Sony and Nook are all fine options, until the magical game-changing and inevitable Apple Tablet comes along...' Which, I am not sure I agree with THAT viewpoint either, necessarily. But I am just saying, it's far too early to say that Amazon is in any way, shape or form the 'winner.'
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In terms of sheer numbers of short stories and novellas, Fictionwise, AFAIK, is the leader. Want all of Kage Baker's short "Company" stories? Fictionwise. Want some classic Robert Silverberg? Fictionwise. Etc.

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Another reason why Amazon not supporting epub is no big deal. When publishers want to reach the core group of people with e-book readers, they go with the Kindle. I suspect it will be very hard to ever change this.
No big deal ?
Most publishers in countries that is are the US uses ePub only. I will not buy a reader that won't read books from my own contry. Sony understood that, amazon did not. Most of the manufacturers have published an update to read ePub. Even books on board, a US website, sell some book ePub only...

Until amazon understand that too, thier market share outside US will be limited. You can't be compatible with only yourself, and expect it to work.
Even apple wasn't that stupid, iPods read the standard that is mp3...

And even in the US, i think amazon's market share was closer to 50% than 90% (that actually surprised me).
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Old 12-05-2009, 04:03 PM   #21
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I would be worried if I thought this was even close to "cornering the market". But the whole attitude of "you must only publish in our exclusive format" just stinks on ice.

Amazon is certainly moving toward cornering the market on my disgust.
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Me either. I've look at this from all sides and I just don't see a more compelling circumstance for the publishers.
That said, I see more and more reasons why new Authors should eschew the current publishing schemes and cut themselves in for a slice of the pie.

I am quite willing to perise fan forums to find new authors at a better price than the established houses. [B]especially[B] if my paytment goes entirely to the author.
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I'm not entirely convinced that selling two short stories precisely constitutes "cornering the market"...

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Old 12-05-2009, 05:01 PM   #24
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I see Amazon as filling that bill in a way no one else does.
Why? Amazon has nothing on any of the other Ebook distributors particularly.

Baen if anyone has more of the short story market. The have been publishing and distributing stories electronically for years.

Various short story magazines are available there by subscription or individually as well as via Amazon. I believe Sony has some as well and certainly short story book collections.

I've seen many stories available directly from authors websites either free or for sale. I suspect this is going to be more the future. Find an author you like and buy direct to support them (and for a better price).

P.S. I think is great if it raises the exposure of short stories in a positive way since that is my favorite form of fiction and it is sorely lacking in the ebook world.
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$3.99 for a short story? Are they insane? Oh, and great, now they're digitally locking in authors to one device (because you know that...Er...works)
Yes it's a lot for a short story imo, te price should scale a bit more so the really short works are covered as well as novella. I would pay $2-5 for a short story by an indie author depending on how much I liked their work and the quality/length of the work.
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In terms of sheer numbers of short stories and novellas, Fictionwise, AFAIK, is the leader.
I was just perusing their site. I didn't realize this:

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Anyway -- we'll see.
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Yes it's a lot for a short story imo, te price should scale a bit more so the really short works are covered as well as novella. I would pay $2-5 for a short story by an indie author depending on how much I liked their work and the quality/length of the work.
$2-5 for a short story? You're more generous than I. Maybe for a collection of shorts, possibly.
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What determines the difference between a $3.99 Amazon short story and a $0.49 Amazon short story?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=...qid=1260053767
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What determines the difference between a $3.99 Amazon short story and a $0.49 Amazon short story?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=...qid=1260053767
the $3.99 stories are selected by The Atlantic


+ that $2.00 fee for international.
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I think the title of the thread is a bit of a reach. The real story here is that we are seeing some support for the short story from a big player on the book scene. It's nice to see some love for a format that has been ailing in the last ten to twenty years. As far as pricing goes, I'm guessing $3.99 is too much for most short stories; $1.99 seems like a more realistic price point. The market will have the final word though.
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