04-23-2010, 07:52 PM | #46 |
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no it's not. and for the other person disputing it... I've been installing telecomm equipment for over 30 years. I won't do the research for you, but it's out there!
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04-23-2010, 08:16 PM | #47 |
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The ban on electronics during take off and landing gives me an excuse to indulge in a glossy magazine!
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04-23-2010, 09:11 PM | #48 |
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One group says "It's their regulations, lets be polite and follow the rules".
One group says "It's inconvenient for me, and my device won’t cause any problems". One group says "It's all stupid now, because today’s XXXXXX (favorite electronic toy) will not affect the plane". I'm kinda in the last group. But I'll behave like those in the first group. Why? Because IF THEY THINK that what you're doing may interfere with the operation and safety of the plane, you might have a federal marshal taking you to a judge to explain why you thought that it was a stupid rule. I'll just try to keep a straight face as they carry you off the plane. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Now if the second group and the third group want to get together and straighten out the FAA, why I think that that would be GREAT! Please start now, there's no time to be lost! Start your own website. Gather more opinions! I would love for you to secede. Because when I flew the last two times, I hit the switch on the PRS-600. (Of course it didn't turn it off. But everyone was happy.) |
04-23-2010, 10:51 PM | #49 |
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I will certainly put my ereader away during takeoff/landing, but actually switching it off? Completely unnecessary, it can happily sit in my bag on it's page until the plane's achieved cruising altitude.
jbjb - Certainly. This is why devices have radiation emission certifications. Of course we can know, by looking at them, the maximum emission levels. Hellmark - Oh good joke about military devices. Ha. Last edited by DawnFalcon; 04-23-2010 at 10:55 PM. |
04-24-2010, 01:12 AM | #50 |
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So are you saying digital phones do not cause interference? I used to have a GSM phone that when left on my bedside table would occasionally cause my CPAP machine to start spontaneously when the phone received a text message. I always put to down to some form of EMF interference, but then I'm just a code jockey not a hardware wizard.
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04-24-2010, 04:26 AM | #51 | |
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(I've been *designing* electronic equipment for over 25 years, so I'm quite capable of doing the research!) /JB |
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04-24-2010, 04:31 AM | #52 | |
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What we have at the moment is a rule set by people who have expertise and have studied the problem, which is being judged to be wrong by people who are utterly unqualified in the field. /JB |
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04-24-2010, 05:00 AM | #53 | |
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04-24-2010, 05:12 AM | #54 | |
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I even turn off my hearing aids. Of course then I can't follow their instructions when they talk to me but I can tell if there is a problem when I see the flight attendant performing The Last Rites at the front of the plane or if I see the O2 masks drop down, and I feel pretty darn cocky about the fact that MY hearing aids didn't contribute to the problem! Stitchawl |
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04-24-2010, 06:00 AM | #55 |
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Look is it really going to hurt anyone to do as asked ?
Reasons why dont matter, e.g. you ask a smoker not to smoke in your home, reason doesn't matter it's your home your right, Same with Airlines it's thier right ! Oh and you guys with pacemakers .... Switch them off please (hehehe) |
04-24-2010, 07:16 AM | #56 | |
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I was sitting next to a lady on a short flight from Paris to Cologne who insisted she had to have her Kindle on the whole time. She was sooo rude to the stewardess, she made a real feast out of it, she ruined the flight for me, the whole row in front, the other in the back, the two others on the side, both stewardess and I'd say probably the whole plane. Get a grip people. If you want to travel to your own rules, buy your own jet. Leave the rest of us in peace ! Last edited by aceflor; 04-24-2010 at 07:19 AM. |
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04-24-2010, 07:27 AM | #57 |
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Soon enough cars are going to have as much electronic equipment as planes. Auto drivers, traction control, electric motors and computers to control all this, along with radios and antennas so the cars can call home automatically. I wonder how they're going to deal with cell phones in cars.
Also considering that planes fly at high altitudes they are exposed to a lot of cosmic radiation, I remember reading somewhere that a single flight exposes its passengers to the equivalent of n X-ray scans. Since I'm pretty sure that they will be dealt with, it's really a matter of hardening plane systems, which presumably costs money, which is why it isn't done. I don't know enough (and googling seems to indicate no else does either) to comment on whether today's airliners are really vulnerable to electronic devices or not. But it seems pretty clear that there is no fundamental reason they cannot be designed to not be. |
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Reports like that from presumably reliable witnesses (the flight crew) that cannot be repeated under test conditions drive the regulatory agencies nuts. And of course, it's one thing to cause an autopilot to disengage at cruise altitude: just push the button and reconnect it, or of course the pilot can just manually fly the airplane. But when visibility is down to just a few hundred meters at the airport and the autopilot is required to fly the approach and even make the landing because the pilots cannot see out the window, it would not be a very good time to have the thing randomly disconnect because someone's toy radiated in just the wrong way at just the wrong time. Without being able to isolate a specific cause for these rare, random events, the regulatory agencies always err on the side of caution. Everyone ought to actually be thankful that the FAA in the U.S. didn't just blanket-prohibit everything electronic from being used on the airplane at all times; they at least had the common sense to limit electronic devices to non-critical phases of flight. It wouldn't have surprised me in the least to see everything prohibited at all times. All of you folks who are complaining about this are quite right: your reader wouldn't cause any problems...probably. Almost certainly. But without being able to prove to the regulatory agencies that it could not possibly cause a problem during a critical moment, well, can you imagine a government bureaucrat going out on a limb and letting you use it without a mountain of evidence to cover his own backside? As long as there's a random incident or two out there once every ten years or so that no one can reproduce under test conditions, I guarantee that electronic thingy won't be allowed. |
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Think about it... Do you really think that the airplane navigation systems will be affected by the small power output of even a hundred cell phones? |
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