iLiad Web Browser possible for DR800SG?

Maike13 · 11-25-2009, 10:18 PM

Does the fact that the DR800SG has 3G instead of wi-fi mean that it will be impossible to get a web browser to work? I'm asking in this forum as there isn't one for the DR800SG yet and it seems pretty similar to the Iliad

badbob001 · 11-25-2009, 10:59 PM

No one outside of Irex knows what is or is not on the dr800sg. I have seen a video of the dr800sg accessing the barnes and noble ebook store, which looks like the mobile web site, so it probably does have a browser for that purpose. The lack of wifi means that verizon can easily restrict your access or ban you outright if you do anything funny on their 3g network.

Though the dr800sg has a similar look to the iliad, it shares similar hardware components and software platform of the dr1000 series.

wallcraft · 11-25-2009, 11:33 PM

As badbob001 says, it almost certainly comes with a web browser, but iRex has not said that it will be able to access the web directly via 3G. Unless they change their mind, this won't be possible because they pay for the 3G access. If it came with WiFi then a 3rd party browser would be relatively easy to get going, even if iRex dropped the ball on web browsing.

Note that it is the wireless providers who are banning WiFi from these devices, under the theory that they make more money from download charges without WiFi. Someone needs to produce a WiFi-only Reader and include a modern web browser. I am hopeful that we will see such devices at CES in January.

ericshliao · 11-26-2009, 01:40 AM

To install 3rd party software on DR800, we need SDK and shell access. Whether they are available for DR800 is still unknown.

Maike13 · 11-26-2009, 09:23 AM

Thanks for the replies. It doesn't sound too promising. It's ridiculous the restrictions the cellular companies are placing on wifi. I currently have an ancient PDA, that I use to connect to the web via wifi, and an equally ancient voice only cell phone. I was wanting to combine these into one device but all the smartphones now seem to require a data contract (typically around $30 a month) even if all you want to use is wifi not 3G. So I have to pay $30 a month to access free wifi. What a rip-off.

Sorry for the rant

Incidentally, does the DR800SG replace the Iliad, or will Irex still sell the Iliad too?

Never mind. I asked Irex and they said the Iliad will still be available, although it won't be in stock again until the end of January. I wonder if they're having a problem getting the 8" displays, as release of the DR800SG keeps getting delayed too.

badbob001 · 11-26-2009, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallcraft

Note that it is the wireless providers who are banning WiFi from these devices, under the theory that they make more money from download charges without WiFi.

Kindle 1 / Kindle 2 gen 1: Sprint + no wifi
Kindle 2 gen 2: AT&T + no wifi
Nook: AT&T + wifi
Que: AT&T + wifi
DR800SG: Verizon + no wifi

You can't really say that wireless providers are blocking the inclusion of wifi. My only conclusion, based on the evidence is:
GSM (AT&T): tolerates wifi
CDMA (Sprint, Verizon): hates wifi

Hans Punia · 11-27-2009, 09:01 AM

I can't believe such an expensive device could not have wi-fi. I mean what use is it to pay $450 for the device if it can only get ebooks. I think they should have lowered the price.

11-25-2009, 10:18 PM	#1
Maike13 Connoisseur Posts: 64 Karma: 28 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Houston, USA Device: IRex Iliad 1st Ed.	Web Browser possible for DR800SG? Does the fact that the DR800SG has 3G instead of wi-fi mean that it will be impossible to get a web browser to work? I'm asking in this forum as there isn't one for the DR800SG yet and it seems pretty similar to the Iliad

11-25-2009, 10:59 PM	#2
badbob001 Fanatic Posts: 556 Karma: 1102020 Join Date: Sep 2009 Device: Kindle Keyboard (rip), Kindle Voyage, Fire Tablet 10 '17, iPad '19	No one outside of Irex knows what is or is not on the dr800sg. I have seen a video of the dr800sg accessing the barnes and noble ebook store, which looks like the mobile web site, so it probably does have a browser for that purpose. The lack of wifi means that verizon can easily restrict your access or ban you outright if you do anything funny on their 3g network. Though the dr800sg has a similar look to the iliad, it shares similar hardware components and software platform of the dr1000 series. Last edited by badbob001; 11-26-2009 at 06:15 PM.

11-26-2009, 09:23 AM	#5
Maike13 Connoisseur Posts: 64 Karma: 28 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Houston, USA Device: IRex Iliad 1st Ed.	Thanks for the replies. It doesn't sound too promising. It's ridiculous the restrictions the cellular companies are placing on wifi. I currently have an ancient PDA, that I use to connect to the web via wifi, and an equally ancient voice only cell phone. I was wanting to combine these into one device but all the smartphones now seem to require a data contract (typically around $30 a month) even if all you want to use is wifi not 3G. So I have to pay $30 a month to access free wifi. What a rip-off. Sorry for the rant Incidentally, does the DR800SG replace the Iliad, or will Irex still sell the Iliad too? Never mind. I asked Irex and they said the Iliad will still be available, although it won't be in stock again until the end of January. I wonder if they're having a problem getting the 8" displays, as release of the DR800SG keeps getting delayed too. Last edited by Maike13; 11-26-2009 at 11:25 AM.

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11-25-2009, 11:33 PM	#3
wallcraft reader Posts: 6,975 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	As badbob001 says, it almost certainly comes with a web browser, but iRex has not said that it will be able to access the web directly via 3G. Unless they change their mind, this won't be possible because they pay for the 3G access. If it came with WiFi then a 3rd party browser would be relatively easy to get going, even if iRex dropped the ball on web browsing. Note that it is the wireless providers who are banning WiFi from these devices, under the theory that they make more money from download charges without WiFi. Someone needs to produce a WiFi-only Reader and include a modern web browser. I am hopeful that we will see such devices at CES in January.

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ericshliao Guru Posts: 976 Karma: 687 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: Dell X51v; iLiad v2	To install 3rd party software on DR800, we need SDK and shell access. Whether they are available for DR800 is still unknown.

11-27-2009, 09:01 AM	#7
Hans Punia Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: none	I can't believe such an expensive device could not have wi-fi. I mean what use is it to pay $450 for the device if it can only get ebooks. I think they should have lowered the price.

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