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If the Schiller quote doesn't convince you, how about Steve Jobs here Quote:
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02-20-2012, 11:52 AM | #32 | |
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Apple has crazy customer loyalty which other media producers just don't have and that works in their favor even when they do things that might piss off their fan base people seem to still buy it. There must be some value in buying DRM media that I just don't understand. |
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Theargument posted by the OP is the standard piracy argument . It has been rejected by virtually all the major players in the debate and has been debunked elsewhere but tends to be repeated and cheer-leaded here as if it were some how the gospel truth. Lets break the argument down and take a critical look , hat tip to the author of COPYHYPE:
PIRACY CAUSES NO HARM Refuted thusly: Quote:
LAW ENFORCEMENT DOES NOT WORK Of course, the Megaupload case case is Exhibit A for the proposition that law enforcement DOES work, given the proper tools, resources, and legal framework. Once a law is in place that allows governments and plaintiffs to go after foreign websites, we will see more like that . More from Copyhype: Quote:
Copyhype's response: Quote:
So there you have it: a complete and compelling response to the Standard Piracy Argument . Hopefully, this will add to the debate . Last edited by stonetools; 02-20-2012 at 01:39 PM. |
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02-20-2012, 12:22 PM | #34 | |
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Youtube has a business model that its based on the easy availability for free of an enormous amount of pirated digital content. Thanks to YouTube, I no longer feel the need to buy content from any legit source, even if the content is offered DRM free. Thank you for illustrating precisely why a no law enforcement approach to piracy will not work. I could not have done better myself. |
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02-20-2012, 12:40 PM | #35 | |
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http://static6.businessinsider.com/i...c-industry.jpg Sales tend to go up and down coinciding with economic recession, as you would probably guess, and while there was actually a very small dip in 1997that coincides with Napster, the total for that year still excedes the previous high peak in the mid-70s. There was then quite a sharp spike in sales for the next few years, before the current recession hit and sales slumped again. |
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02-20-2012, 12:58 PM | #36 | |
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02-20-2012, 01:12 PM | #37 | |
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Thank god for the open ePUBs at the library. Go O'Reilly and Carina, I guess. Last edited by anamardoll; 02-20-2012 at 01:16 PM. |
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02-20-2012, 01:51 PM | #38 | |
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Are you willing to concede that Apple does believe that DRM schemes have no place in an anti piracy strategy? I'll happily admit that Apple does believe that law enforcement has a place in an anti piracy strategy. |
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02-20-2012, 02:12 PM | #39 | |
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02-20-2012, 02:23 PM | #40 | |
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I will happily concede that Apple believes that DRM schemes have no place in an anti MUSIC piracy scheme. I think Apple's views on DRM are more nuanced than binary DRM/ no DRM choice. Apple's business model is all about offering great user experience to the consumer by offering great hardware , then linking the hardware to great content offered through their stores. As a result, they work hard at securing great content through deals with content providers. As far as DRM is concerned, they tell content providers : " Look, if it makes you feel secure to offer content with DRM, we've got the best DRM in the business. If you want to offer content DRM free, we can do that too. Just don't offer DRM free content outside our hardware platform while insisting that content offered through our store have DRM. That's sh*t business strategy, and we won't do it. " Now you concede that Apple believes law enforcement has a place in anti piracy strategy. Do YOU believe the same, and if so, what would it look like? |
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I agree here. People generally buy stuff, not as a last resort because they couldn't find a good copy on the dark net, but because they just want to buy stuff, no needless drama, no nothing.
I buy a lot of music even though I legally can watch it on youtube. In fact, I buy some because the singer has put his own music on you tube for free viewing whenever we wish, and I want to reward that. The companies who are so afraid of someone else walking into a room if I am listening to the music are the people I never want to buy from. |
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Maybe the solution is not no DRM , but BETTER DRM. After all, we don't give up on speeding laws, because there is frequently arbitrary and uneven enforcement of those laws or because it represents a restriction after we have spent our hard earned money to buy cars that can go much faster than the speed limit. Why how dare the government insist that we can only go 55 or 30 or 15 mph in certain areas and that those limits arbitrarily change over time! Why, the nerve.... Last edited by stonetools; 02-20-2012 at 03:39 PM. |
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02-20-2012, 03:45 PM | #44 |
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Having a DRM free book is not the same as having a car with no speeding laws or limits.
I'm more afraid of someone who disregards speeding laws than I am of someone with a huge calibre library of DRM-free books that they bought for themselves. I bought a few books from smashwords which COME drm free. What are people afraid of? |
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Yes, I do indeed believe law enforcement has a place in anti-piracy strategies. Commercial copyright infringement needs to be prosecuted. But I also think that the law is currently heavy-handed when it comes to non-commercial small scale copyright infringement, and that statutory damages should not apply to non-commercial infringement. And the laws on DRM systems need to be scrapped. |
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