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Old 03-21-2009, 05:01 AM   #61
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ever since incunabula publishers moved to, well, movable type.
By definition, incunabula are printed, not handwritten, which is what I believe you meant
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Old 03-21-2009, 07:23 AM   #62
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How is a sighted person "adversely affected" because the book can not be read out loud of by a screen reader?
There is a campaign in the UK by dyslexic groups to differentiate between visual impairment and reading impairment.

"The Copyright (Visually Impaired Persons) Act 2002 created a legal anomaly. The Act gave visually impaired people rights to have copyright texts converted so that they can read them, without needing to get permission from the publisher. Dyslexic people, however, although equally covered by the Disability Discrimination Act 1995 (D.D.A.), were not included in the 2002 Act. So you could scan a book to make an electronic version for a blind person without permission, but not for a dyslexic one. People making alternative formats for dyslexic people were breaking the law."
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Old 03-21-2009, 07:56 AM   #63
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By definition, incunabula are printed, not handwritten, which is what I believe you meant
Why was that unclear from the text? Are you thinking about the misunderstanding a lot of people have when they believe that Gutenberg invented printing?
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Old 03-21-2009, 09:00 AM   #64
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There is a campaign in the UK by dyslexic groups to differentiate between visual impairment and reading impairment.

"The Copyright (Visually Impaired Persons) Act 2002 created a legal anomaly. The Act gave visually impaired people rights to have copyright texts converted so that they can read them, without needing to get permission from the publisher. Dyslexic people, however, although equally covered by the Disability Discrimination Act 1995 (D.D.A.), were not included in the 2002 Act. So you could scan a book to make an electronic version for a blind person without permission, but not for a dyslexic one. People making alternative formats for dyslexic people were breaking the law."

Thanks! This is great to know about -- my son has a visual reading difficulty (but has excellent vision) and uses various aids to help him read. Reading on my 505 is so much easier for him. I am off to find out more about the legislation.
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Old 03-21-2009, 10:50 AM   #65
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You got it!

I notice quite few posts by other people who say, "well, I only read a digital book once so I don't care if it is DRM or not." Well, try thinking in terms of principle and not in terms of your own regular practice.

Some of us may never buy a DRM digital book because some of us (like myself) borrow digital library books from the public library or read our own academic PDFs (which are DRM free) on our readers, but on principle I can still say I don't like DRM digital books.

Or put it this way: you don't live in 1980s South Africa and so apartheid does not directly affect you. Should you say, "I don't care because that form of racialised society doesn't affect me because I don't live in it?"

Hmm....
"OUCH" Guess I've been burned for offering my humble comment. Sorry, btw, don't lump me in with communism etc. I am an American and proud of it and I do believe in free enterprise. Have a nice day
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Old 03-21-2009, 12:41 PM   #66
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I bought my Kindle thinking that I could place all my work pdf and doc files on my kindle, so that I could have them all in one simple place, for meetings and such. Forget that! I have to send proprietary information to Amazon to convert to azw and send back to me???? I don't think so!!!! And them Amazon claims ownership of my company files? I would be fired in 2 seconds if any employee discovered this stuff on my Kindle.
Amazon needs to get over itself and let us place PDF's and docs directly on the Kindle we paid for! I wouldn't mind buying their books in that case, but I am reluctant to support them while they have this attitude. Yes, I have bought 3 paid books since my Kindle arrived, but that number might be higher if they would get rid of some of the idiotic concepts about ownership of private files.

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Old 03-21-2009, 12:50 PM   #67
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I bought my Kindle thinking that I could place all my work pdf and doc files on my kindle, so that I could have them all in one simple place, for meetings and such. Forget that! I have to send proprietary information to Amazon to convert to azw and send back to me???? I don't think so!!!! And them Amazon claims ownership of my company files? I would be fired in 2 seconds if any employee discovered this stuff on my Kindle.
Amazon needs to get over itself and let us place PDF's and docs directly on the Kindle we paid for! I wouldn't mind buying their books in that case, but I am reluctant to support them while they have this attitude. Yes, I have bought 3 paid books since my Kindle arrived, but that number might be higher if they would get rid of some of the idiotic concepts about ownership of private files.
You don't have to send files to Amazon to be converted. There are tons of free options for convert files to Mobi format which will work just fine on the Kindle and you can transfer via USB.
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Old 03-21-2009, 01:50 PM   #68
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And them Amazon claims ownership of my company files? I would be fired in 2 seconds if any employee discovered this stuff on my Kindle.
I'm not sure what this means. Amazon only converts the file, they don't keep it on their servers.

If you'd get in trouble for putting certain documents on your Kindle and having them discovered, you may want to refrain from doing that. Maybe a netbook or an iPod Touch that you can password protect would be better suited to your work needs.
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Old 03-21-2009, 03:08 PM   #69
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I bought my Kindle thinking that I could place all my work pdf and doc files on my kindle, so that I could have them all in one simple place, for meetings and such. Forget that! I have to send proprietary information to Amazon to convert to azw and send back to me???? I don't think so!!!! And them Amazon claims ownership of my company files? I would be fired in 2 seconds if any employee discovered this stuff on my Kindle.
Amazon needs to get over itself and let us place PDF's and docs directly on the Kindle we paid for! I wouldn't mind buying their books in that case, but I am reluctant to support them while they have this attitude. Yes, I have bought 3 paid books since my Kindle arrived, but that number might be higher if they would get rid of some of the idiotic concepts about ownership of private files.

You need to frequent a few e-book hacking forums and get the Kindle unwinded. You will be able to do most things that you desire after a few hours of work and reading.
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If you'd get in trouble for putting certain documents on your Kindle and having them discovered, you may want to refrain from doing that. Maybe a netbook or an iPod Touch that you can password protect would be better suited to your work needs.
Or a Sony 505 that reads PDF's and has the ability to be password protected.
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Old 03-22-2009, 03:10 PM   #71
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Amazon only converts the file, they don't keep it on their servers.
Are you sure? How can you be sure? I work at times for a huge telephone company and they would not be happy for their plans I see to be released by someone else.

I love my Kindle for what it is, but I was expecting more. I wish I had gone with the Sony now.
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Old 03-22-2009, 03:23 PM   #72
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Are you sure? How can you be sure? I work at times for a huge telephone company and they would not be happy for their plans I see to be released by someone else.

I love my Kindle for what it is, but I was expecting more. I wish I had gone with the Sony now.
I don't know that they don't and you don't know that they do. As I said before, if you concerned that your job could be jeopardized by having certain work documents on your Kindle. DON'T put them on the Kindle.

It's not too late for you to go with the Sony if you've owned your Kindle for less than 30 days. And if it's longer, you can sell it.
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Or a Sony 505 that reads PDF's and has the ability to be password protected.

I didn't know the Sony could do that. Thanks for the new info.
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