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11-05-2010, 08:13 PM | #33 |
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I too, am appalled by the prices on some Nook titles. Buy the cheap ones, such as Indies, I'd suggest. If you don't buy any, the accountants will not notice you at all. But if you buy cheap, they will notice and each vote will eventually drive the prices down.
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11-05-2010, 09:57 PM | #34 |
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Naturally, of course, the whole discussion about what constitutes a "Real" book is somewhat silly. Until ebooks take over the world and Dead Tree Books no longer exist in any form whatsoever, then I have no trouble differentiating "Real" books from ebooks.
I am perfectly willing to accept that "Real" books are those that can be held, smelled, and the pages can be physically turned, written on, and have their corners folded as bookmarks. Electronic representations of those actions are nice, but "Real" books have been around since they were called manuscripts and scrolls and deserve to be differentiated as "real" as long as they exist in that physical form. An ebook may have the same content, but it is still just a file on a disk or memory card until it is printed out and bound into a "book". That said, we use such terms as pbook and dtbook to differentiate between the physical formats and electronic formats (ebook). We don't just say "book" because then no one knows to which we refer. However, a format that has been around for maybe 10 years is not what comes to mind when one chooses to say "real". Paper books have been around for thousands, not tens, of years, and have earned the right to be referred to as "Real" if someone chooses to do so. Yeah, both formats are books, but Paper books are still the only "Real" books. Even as one of those who doesn't expect ever to buy another "real" book, they deserve our respect for the job they have done, and what they have endured for thousands of year. Hoo ray for Paper books, they are my "real" hero. rofl. Oh. Did I say the whole discussion is silly? Hope I helped make it so. |
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11-10-2010, 04:00 PM | #36 |
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I think we have it wrong.
Paper books are Natural books and Electronic books are Transcendental. Though I would accept that they are Rational instead, though if we assume that electronic books are rational, irrational, and transcendental then we may as well call them Real. |
11-14-2010, 01:42 AM | #37 |
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Just use inkmesh it will show you where to buy cheaper books. One of the reasons I choose the Nook over the Kindle is that I can shop at more than one ebook store with the Nook as apposed to being stuck with whatever price Amazon chooses. Amazon is not always the cheapest and if it is I can just use my ipod touch to read if it's that much cheaper usually it's not.
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11-26-2010, 01:53 AM | #39 | |
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The Skylarov case is interesting, however, in that a jury found that merely distributing the tools was not considered a "willful" infringement (meaning that the Russian employees did not intend to violate U. S. law). Whether or not this finding would help a U. S. citizen, I am not entirely sure (especially when a jury is involved). However, the next ebook mega-strip package (that removes DRM from all five (at least!) major formats) will likely include watermarks in the resultant book, hopefully clarifying that the community developing those tools have no intention of distributing the result. Last edited by LoganK; 11-26-2010 at 02:02 AM. |
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It's been a while, but from what I remember Slyarov was arrested after giving his presentation. The charges were around the fact that he was disclosing how Adobe's DRM worked at the time (Slyarov) as well as for distributing circumvention tools (ElcomSoft). Adobe quickly dropped charges, but the case was prosecuted anyway. Although it was developed in Russia, the presentation was given here, and the software was made available for sale here.
Which package do you mean? I have no problem with content being watermarked. Apple does it for all of their audio, and that's no longer encrypted. It makes sense, and it's in line with the risks involved. |
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The one generally associated with The Dark Reverser (and Apprentice Alf). I think it's great that the community is taking that step and clearly stating these tools are for personal use, not for distribution. |
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11-26-2010, 05:37 PM | #42 |
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I just set a $10 upper price limit for myself and won't pay more than that for an ebook. Sure, I've had to pass on quite a few books but there's so much out there that I want to read that's below that price that I won't ever run out of reading material. Usually, the initial price will come down in a few months or a year so I will end up with the book at some point later.
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I don't expect to see any case law on DMCA circumvention of legally obtained material for personal use. There doesn't seem to be any interest in suing paying customers over such things. But that doesn't make it legal. I did say that I was being pedantic. Quote:
Additional exceptions established by the Librarian of Congress under subsection (a)(1)(c) provide for "jailbreaking" of "computer programs that enable wireless telephone handsets to execute software applications" for interoperability (exception #2), but not for any other case. Stripping DRM from e-books that you've legally obtained, for the purpose of reading those e-books, currently is illegal in the US (except as provided by the Librarian of Congress's exception #6) whether anyone ever gets sued for it or not. |
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