Sideloading and Whispersync - Page 3

arcadata · 12-28-2010, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Actually, you can get non-Amazon purchases to sync (Furthest Point Read only - no notes or bookmarks) between multiple devices, but you have to be willing (and able) to fiddle with the metadata -- and it has to be an ebook that Amazon does sell in order to work.

If the ebooks (on the multiple devices) share a valid Amazon ASIN number (EXTH Record 113) and EXTH record 501 (cdetype) contains the value 'EBOK' (rather than 'PDOC'), WhisperSync will happily keep track of your "Furthest Read" point on the various devices.

Thanks for the tip! I would love to be able to sync my sideloaded books

daffy4u · 12-30-2010, 05:50 PM

Wiki page is up!

Kindle Sync with non-Amazon eBooks

DiapDealer · 12-30-2010, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by daffy4u

Wiki page is up!

Very nice!

For the record, the same thing can be done on Linux and Mac machines that have the MobiPerl Tools installed... it would just have to be done with the command-line version of mobi2mobi as there is no gui. Definitely a PITA for some, but still do-able.

daffy4u · 12-30-2010, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Very nice!

For the record, the same thing can be done on Linux and Mac machines that have the MobiPerl Tools installed... it would just have to be done with the command-line version of mobi2mobi as there is no gui. Definitely a PITA for some, but still do-able.

I'll add that little tidbit. Thanks again!

If any Mac or Linux Gurus want to tackle this please let me know.

daffy4u · 01-01-2011, 05:37 PM

Well, thanks to m0ngr31's thread ASIN info, we now know that the ASIN of a pBook can be used if Amazon does not sell a Kindle version.

I tested a freebie I got from B&N called "Deadly Sanctuary" by Sylvia Nobel. It is the first book in a series and is only available as a paperback on Amazon. The first version of book I found did not have an ASIN number but I found copies being sold by individuals on Amazon did have an ASIN.

I followed the same procedure using the Mobi2Mobi GUI (with K4PC and K3) and it worked just fine!

I'll be updating the wiki accordingly.

NoWorthWhile · 01-03-2011, 06:41 PM

This is awesome.

Is there anyway though to batch save the exth data on a lot of books at the same time?

phil75070 · 01-03-2011, 07:29 PM

Deadly Sanctuary WAS available from Amazon as an eBook at least for a short time as I have it on my K3 and is still listed in my "Your Orders" section of my Manage Your Kindle page. I downloaded it on 12/24.

daffy4u · 01-03-2011, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by phil75070

Deadly Sanctuary WAS available from Amazon as an eBook at least for a short time as I have it on my K3 and is still listed in my "Your Orders" section of my Manage Your Kindle page. I downloaded it on 12/24.

I do recall that but you can't find it now. I was too slow when it was available on Amazon.

Gwen Morse · 01-04-2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NoWorthWhile

This is awesome.

Is there anyway though to batch save the exth data on a lot of books at the same time?

It would be awesome if someone could write a Calibre plugin that handles this.

NoWorthWhile · 01-04-2011, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gwen Morse

It would be awesome if someone could write a Calibre plugin that handles this.

Couldn't agree more.

Kerenon · 01-04-2011, 05:54 PM

Hi,

First of all, thanks for the info. I'm using 3 devices (a kindle, a pc, and an adroid smartphone) for reading and using this method I can finally sync my books across devices.

I've did some experimenting, and it seems, the ASIN doesn't even has to be valid. I've managed to sync my 3 test books using bogus numbers like "B000000001", "B000000002", "B000000003", and so on. The only problem with this, that the android app is downloading some random images from amazon as book covers

. Tomorrow, I'll try it big. 500 books, from "B000000001" to "B000000500". I'll report back about it.

daffy4u · 01-04-2011, 08:07 PM

Thanks for being a guinea pig Kernon! DiapDealer made a joke about the ASIN number of a toaster being workable for this trick... looks like he may be right.

Karma comin' at cha!

It looks like you have a good fake numbering system. My concern is making sure the fake number is not one for books we already own or might buy in the future. I'll stick to the ASIN of a pbook version but try a fake number if I can't find a matching ASIN.

Kerenon · 01-05-2011, 07:01 AM

So. I did the test, and it seems to work without problems. I've selected 500 random books from my collection and mass-tagged them with the appropriate data using mobiperl, and a small one-shot script, and the results are great

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I admit I didn't check all 500 of them. I've picked 30 random books, and they are all syncing just fine, so I assume all of them are working fine. As I mentioned before, the only problem is that the android app is downloading some random images as cover art, but I can live with that.

NoWorthWhile · 01-05-2011, 07:04 AM

Kerenon, thanks for doing that. Do you mind sharing your script to allows us to do the same?

Also, how are the Cover tags on various machines? (ie: K4PC, Android, iOS or whatever device you have?)

Kerenon · 01-05-2011, 07:16 AM

Sure. I don't mind sharing it, but don't know if it will help anyone

. It's a one-shot script. Everything hard-coded, no error chekcing/handling. no nothing

. You have to modify it, or it probably won't work at all. On top of that I'm using linux so to use it on windows, you have to modify it even more.

About the covers: K4PC, and the Kindle itself, are showing the embedded cover. The only problem is with the android reader. I don't have any iDevices, so I have no idea about that.

01-01-2011, 05:37 PM	#35
daffy4u I'm Super Kindle-icious Posts: 6,734 Karma: 2434103 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Long Drive, Calinadia Candafornia Device: KDXG, KT, Oasis	Update Well, thanks to m0ngr31's thread ASIN info, we now know that the ASIN of a pBook can be used if Amazon does not sell a Kindle version. I tested a freebie I got from B&N called "Deadly Sanctuary" by Sylvia Nobel. It is the first book in a series and is only available as a paperback on Amazon. The first version of book I found did not have an ASIN number but I found copies being sold by individuals on Amazon did have an ASIN. I followed the same procedure using the Mobi2Mobi GUI (with K4PC and K3) and it worked just fine! I'll be updating the wiki accordingly. Attached Thumbnails

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daffy4u I'm Super Kindle-icious Posts: 6,734 Karma: 2434103 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Long Drive, Calinadia Candafornia Device: KDXG, KT, Oasis	Wiki page is up! Kindle Sync with non-Amazon eBooks

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NoWorthWhile Connoisseur Posts: 54 Karma: 1188 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Belgium (That's in Europe) Device: Kindle 3	This is awesome. Is there anyway though to batch save the exth data on a lot of books at the same time?

01-03-2011, 07:29 PM	#37
phil75070 Enthusiast Posts: 37 Karma: 658 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: Kindle 2	Deadly Sanctuary WAS available from Amazon as an eBook at least for a short time as I have it on my K3 and is still listed in my "Your Orders" section of my Manage Your Kindle page. I downloaded it on 12/24.

01-04-2011, 05:54 PM	#41
Kerenon Member Posts: 11 Karma: 494 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Hungary (Europe) Device: Kindle 3 (WiFi)	Hi, First of all, thanks for the info. I'm using 3 devices (a kindle, a pc, and an adroid smartphone) for reading and using this method I can finally sync my books across devices. I've did some experimenting, and it seems, the ASIN doesn't even has to be valid. I've managed to sync my 3 test books using bogus numbers like "B000000001", "B000000002", "B000000003", and so on. The only problem with this, that the android app is downloading some random images from amazon as book covers . Tomorrow, I'll try it big. 500 books, from "B000000001" to "B000000500". I'll report back about it.

01-04-2011, 08:07 PM	#42
daffy4u I'm Super Kindle-icious Posts: 6,734 Karma: 2434103 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Long Drive, Calinadia Candafornia Device: KDXG, KT, Oasis	Thanks for being a guinea pig Kernon! DiapDealer made a joke about the ASIN number of a toaster being workable for this trick... looks like he may be right. Karma comin' at cha! It looks like you have a good fake numbering system. My concern is making sure the fake number is not one for books we already own or might buy in the future. I'll stick to the ASIN of a pbook version but try a fake number if I can't find a matching ASIN.

01-05-2011, 07:01 AM	#43
Kerenon Member Posts: 11 Karma: 494 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Hungary (Europe) Device: Kindle 3 (WiFi)	So. I did the test, and it seems to work without problems. I've selected 500 random books from my collection and mass-tagged them with the appropriate data using mobiperl, and a small one-shot script, and the results are great . I admit I didn't check all 500 of them. I've picked 30 random books, and they are all syncing just fine, so I assume all of them are working fine. As I mentioned before, the only problem is that the android app is downloading some random images as cover art, but I can live with that.

01-05-2011, 07:04 AM	#44
NoWorthWhile Connoisseur Posts: 54 Karma: 1188 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Belgium (That's in Europe) Device: Kindle 3	Kerenon, thanks for doing that. Do you mind sharing your script to allows us to do the same? Also, how are the Cover tags on various machines? (ie: K4PC, Android, iOS or whatever device you have?)

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