geographic restrictions at Fictionwise - Page 5

GeoffC · 05-28-2009, 04:01 AM

technically, some of these solutions could be described as fraudulent .... (now - which one works !!!)

HarryT · 05-28-2009, 04:06 AM

I think, Geoff, that although FictionWise have to impose these geographical restrictions, they've deliberately left the system as "open" as they can. As far as their system is concerned, if you tell it that you're in the USA, and they have nothing on their system (such as a credit card) which indicates otherwise, then you are in the USA as far as they are concerned, and they'll happily sell you the books.

GeoffC · 05-28-2009, 05:00 AM

Told IT I'm in the US, and using Paypal with a bank account - and the transaction continues to be refused. Problem is Paypal also has my address.....

GeoffC · 05-28-2009, 05:10 AM

Damnable restriction, and the books I want in WHSmith are only available as adobe pdf & adobe ePub.....

Jellby · 05-28-2009, 05:13 AM

If you could buy other books and then get the ones you want with micropay, I think changing your country in your profile should work, it worked for me, at least.

pdurrant · 05-28-2009, 05:17 AM

They also take account of the country in your Paypal account if you use Paypal. If I pay with my usual paypal account, I hit geographic restrictions. If I pay with the account I created at paypal.com, I don't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

I think, Geoff, that although FictionWise have to impose these geographical restrictions, they've deliberately left the system as "open" as they can. As far as their system is concerned, if you tell it that you're in the USA, and they have nothing on their system (such as a credit card) which indicates otherwise, then you are in the USA as far as they are concerned, and they'll happily sell you the books.

GeoffC · 05-28-2009, 05:18 AM

I've changed my country in my profile, to Ak in US.
I have no credit card registered with Fictionwise.
A direct credit card transaction fails, 'cause my profile address doesn't tally with my credit card address, then there is the grographical restriction.
A Paypal transaction fails, either by one of two credit cards, ot my nominated bank account.
If Fictionwise reckon that 10% of their books are affected, and I've chosen 8 books - all of which are restricted, then I suspect their 10% is a little on the conservative side.

I could buy all via micropay, but that means I negate the benefit of both club membership and also opportunity to gain micropay discounts....

GeoffC · 05-28-2009, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdurrant

They also take account of the country in your Paypal account if you use Paypal. If I pay with my usual paypal account, I hit geographic restrictions. If I pay with the account I created at paypal.com, I don't.

run that one passed me, again .... usual paypal account, and a 'created' account.
isn't an address required for a paypal account ? - or am I missing the obvious (as usual)

pdurrant · 05-28-2009, 05:29 AM

OK, my usual account is a paypal.co.uk account, with a uk address, bank account, credit card. But the problem is that PayPal knows I'm in the UK, and apparently tells Fictionwise.

Hmm.. I suppose this might be passed in the delivery address...

Oh, how foolish. Yes that's it. I didn't need to bother with a new Paypal account at all, I just needed to change the delivery address to a US address.

So there's your answer - add a US delivery address to your Paypal account address book, and use that address when ordering from Fcitionwise.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffC

run that one passed me, again .... usual paypal account, and a 'created' account.
isn't an address required for a paypal account ? - or am I missing the obvious (as usual)

zerospinboson · 05-28-2009, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffC

run that one passed me, again .... usual paypal account, and a 'created' account.
isn't an address required for a paypal account ? - or am I missing the obvious (as usual)

Try using your normal cc but change your billing address to somewhere in the US. I was also unsure it wouldn't be accepted, but it worked like a charm (and I assume they're able to bill my cc as well).

GeoffC · 05-28-2009, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdurrant

OK, my usual account is a paypal.co.uk account, with a uk address, bank account, credit card. But the problem is that PayPal knows I'm in the UK, and apparently tells Fictionwise.

Hmm.. I suppose this might be passed in the delivery address...

Oh, how foolish. Yes that's it. I didn't need to bother with a new Paypal account at all, I just needed to change the delivery address to a US address.

So there's your answer - add a US delivery address to your Paypal account address book, and use that address when ordering from Fcitionwise.

I've been trying that dodge, but couldn't find the post code of 1 Capitol Hill.....

GeoffC · 05-28-2009, 05:38 AM

My Paypal profile will not allow me to add a non-UK address ..... either as myself, nor as a 'gift'...........

pdurrant · 05-28-2009, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffC

I've been trying that dodge, but couldn't find the post code of 1 Capitol Hill.....

Capitol Building,
Washington,
DC 20515
USA

or you could use

The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20500
USA

GeoffC · 05-28-2009, 05:50 AM

I seem unable to add a non-UK address......the drop-down box does not allow me to make any other choice.

HarryT · 05-28-2009, 05:52 AM

I think that FW should just give you the book, Geoff - they can't have many customers as dedicated as you!

Have you looked to see if it's available at BoB?

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05-28-2009, 04:01 AM	#61
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,600 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	technically, some of these solutions could be described as fraudulent .... (now - which one works !!!)

05-28-2009, 04:06 AM	#62
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I think, Geoff, that although FictionWise have to impose these geographical restrictions, they've deliberately left the system as "open" as they can. As far as their system is concerned, if you tell it that you're in the USA, and they have nothing on their system (such as a credit card) which indicates otherwise, then you are in the USA as far as they are concerned, and they'll happily sell you the books.

05-28-2009, 05:00 AM	#63
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,600 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	Told IT I'm in the US, and using Paypal with a bank account - and the transaction continues to be refused. Problem is Paypal also has my address.....

05-28-2009, 05:10 AM	#64
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,600 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	Damnable restriction, and the books I want in WHSmith are only available as adobe pdf & adobe ePub.....

05-28-2009, 05:13 AM	#65
Jellby frumious Bandersnatch Posts: 7,515 Karma: 18512745 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spaniard in Sweden Device: Cybook Orizon, Kobo Aura	If you could buy other books and then get the ones you want with micropay, I think changing your country in your profile should work, it worked for me, at least.

05-28-2009, 05:18 AM	#67
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,600 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	I've changed my country in my profile, to Ak in US. I have no credit card registered with Fictionwise. A direct credit card transaction fails, 'cause my profile address doesn't tally with my credit card address, then there is the grographical restriction. A Paypal transaction fails, either by one of two credit cards, ot my nominated bank account. If Fictionwise reckon that 10% of their books are affected, and I've chosen 8 books - all of which are restricted, then I suspect their 10% is a little on the conservative side. I could buy all via micropay, but that means I negate the benefit of both club membership and also opportunity to gain micropay discounts....

05-28-2009, 05:38 AM	#72
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,600 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	My Paypal profile will not allow me to add a non-UK address ..... either as myself, nor as a 'gift'...........

05-28-2009, 05:50 AM	#74
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,600 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	I seem unable to add a non-UK address......the drop-down box does not allow me to make any other choice.

05-28-2009, 05:52 AM	#75
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I think that FW should just give you the book, Geoff - they can't have many customers as dedicated as you! Have you looked to see if it's available at BoB?

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