where is indexing stored

cybmole · 10-06-2010, 01:50 AM

where does the kindle 3 store its indexing & is it possible to re-index books somehow before copying to device.

I thought maybe this stuff was in the .mbp files but apparently not, after googling that format ?

jozicka · 10-06-2010, 03:26 AM

\system\Search Indexes\Index.db

system is hidden so you have to have set up to see hidden folders in browser.

cybmole · 10-06-2010, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jozicka

\system\Search Indexes\Index.db

system is hidden so you have to have set up to see hidden folders in browser.

ok thanks - so it's "one index to rule them all", not one per book.

i guess that means that K must de-index books when they are deleted from device ?

So what happens if I mess with files & folders via the PC USB interface i.e. move, copy, rename , delete... via Windows. Does that mess up the master index or does K check & repair as needed when ejected ?

AthenaAtDelphi · 10-06-2010, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jozicka

\system\Search Indexes\Index.db

Unfortunately it's not a SQLite database .

That would have been nice.

jozicka · 10-06-2010, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybmole

ok thanks - so it's "one index to rule them all", not one per book.

i guess that means that K must de-index books when they are deleted from device ?

So what happens if I mess with files & folders via the PC USB interface i.e. move, copy, rename , delete... via Windows. Does that mess up the master index or does K check & repair as needed when ejected ?

Well, it is something like both, I can see a db, which is increasing during indexing, and also new files per book are there. the names of the files are just like a code: 8a9dfkahgkahjei877a43 etc

By the way, I left indexing my ebooks during day - it indexed around 300 files and after that it has got stacked, rebooted - and started from beginning... So I gave up indexing and marked "read only" flag on index.db

niceboy · 10-18-2010, 11:45 AM

"So I gave up indexing and marked "read only" flag on index.db"

I am not a very technical person. Can you tell me a simple way to un-enable indexing? I plan to load many books on my Kindle 3 but I do not want them indexed.

OakIris · 10-18-2010, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by niceboy

"So I gave up indexing and marked "read only" flag on index.db"

I am not a very technical person. Can you tell me a simple way to un-enable indexing? I plan to load many books on my Kindle 3 but I do not want them indexed.

I don't believe there is anyway to disable indexing on the Kindle, but if there is, someone here is sure to chime in.

Holly

NiLuJe · 10-18-2010, 01:23 PM

There's a couple of private commands that seems to control the indexing process. (cf ~help).

curstpriest · 10-19-2010, 06:18 AM

I believe azw or w/e files have index built in, is this correct?

cybmole · 10-19-2010, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by curstpriest

I believe azw or w/e files have index built in, is this correct?

most books on my Kindle are drm-free .mobi - yet they are all indexed ( in that the search function always works) . So I don't think the indexes can be in the book files

NiLuJe · 10-19-2010, 12:41 PM

@curstpriest: Nope, the search index is built at run time on the device.

terencek · 10-20-2010, 07:16 AM

Is there any way to 'force' indexing on the K3? I loaded a shipload of books (around 450) and then the indexing began, and went on, and on, and on.... My battery took quite a beating (yeah, I know, I should have plugged it in as recommended elsewhere in the forum).

But now a couple of days on, if I type '.' at the Home screen as recommended so usefully elsewhere here, the 'items still to be indexed' seems stuck at 7. What happens now?

OakIris · 10-20-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by terencek

Is there any way to 'force' indexing on the K3? I loaded a shipload of books (around 450) and then the indexing began, and went on, and on, and on.... My battery took quite a beating (yeah, I know, I should have plugged it in as recommended elsewhere in the forum).

But now a couple of days on, if I type '.' at the Home screen as recommended so usefully elsewhere here, the 'items still to be indexed' seems stuck at 7. What happens now?

Here's some info about what to do if your indexing gets "stuck" -

Quote:

...if a book or books are still indexing it will display “X items indexing”, select that and it will display which book, or books, are still being indexed. Wait until all books are indexed before leaving your Kindle off charge. If you have a book that is stuck indexing (my 60 books took about a day to index all of them) then go back to the home page, select the “stuck” book, delete it and then re-download it.

It is from this article about the Kindle 3 and battery use/drain: http://ozaz.org/2010/09/30/kindle-3-tips-battery/

Holly

HarryT · 10-20-2010, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by curstpriest

I believe azw or w/e files have index built in, is this correct?

Only dictionaries have built-in indexing. A normal book doesn't.

curstpriest · 10-20-2010, 02:39 PM

Then why are all the amazon books 2x the size of normal .mobi books?

10-06-2010, 01:50 AM	#1
cybmole Wizard Posts: 3,720 Karma: 1759970 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: none	where is indexing stored where does the kindle 3 store its indexing & is it possible to re-index books somehow before copying to device. I thought maybe this stuff was in the .mbp files but apparently not, after googling that format ?

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terencek Groupie Posts: 170 Karma: 1010944 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The African bush Device: Kindle 3	Is there any way to 'force' indexing on the K3? I loaded a shipload of books (around 450) and then the indexing began, and went on, and on, and on.... My battery took quite a beating (yeah, I know, I should have plugged it in as recommended elsewhere in the forum). But now a couple of days on, if I type '.' at the Home screen as recommended so usefully elsewhere here, the 'items still to be indexed' seems stuck at 7. What happens now? Last edited by terencek; 10-20-2010 at 07:16 AM. Reason: Correction

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10-06-2010, 03:26 AM	#2
jozicka Connoisseur Posts: 63 Karma: 194 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: notebook	\system\Search Indexes\Index.db system is hidden so you have to have set up to see hidden folders in browser.

10-18-2010, 11:45 AM	#6
niceboy Enthusiast Posts: 48 Karma: 14 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: Kindle	"So I gave up indexing and marked "read only" flag on index.db" I am not a very technical person. Can you tell me a simple way to un-enable indexing? I plan to load many books on my Kindle 3 but I do not want them indexed.

10-18-2010, 01:23 PM	#8
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,477 Karma: 26012492 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	There's a couple of private commands that seems to control the indexing process. (cf ~help).

10-19-2010, 06:18 AM	#9
curstpriest Confused Posts: 402 Karma: 5538 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Bay Area Device: Kindle DXG	I believe azw or w/e files have index built in, is this correct?

10-19-2010, 12:41 PM	#11
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,477 Karma: 26012492 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@curstpriest: Nope, the search index is built at run time on the device.

10-20-2010, 02:39 PM	#15
curstpriest Confused Posts: 402 Karma: 5538 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Bay Area Device: Kindle DXG	Then why are all the amazon books 2x the size of normal .mobi books?

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