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Old 08-28-2009, 06:06 AM   #46
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- Browsing mode : new interface presentation.

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- Possibility to zoom / change font size by pressing + or – button (Cybook Gen3), by pressing simultaneously menu and one of the page forward/backward button (Cybook Opus).
These points will make me update without a qualm (as soon as I'll have some positive returns, that is ! )
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Yeah, folder support works a charm. I didn't feel big change with pdf. It's faster though.
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These points will make me update without a qualm (as soon as I'll have some positive returns, that is ! )
What I need is some way to initiate lookup without jumping through the menus. And that's not on the list

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Old 08-28-2009, 10:32 AM   #49
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PDF is not a proprietary format. It is an ISO standard.
Sorry, but my native language is german and when I looked it up:
- from latin "proprietarius" = the owner
- the original meaning is therefor "owned by someone", "belonging to someone"
- juridically it's meaning is "copyrighted"

Plus an english dictionary translated:
- company-owned (firmeneigen)
- secured (gesichert)
- secret (geheim)

So when I wrote about PDF being proprietary, I was referring to "being copyrighted" and "owned by a company" (Adobe), which it surely is...
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Old 08-28-2009, 10:36 AM   #50
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If after missing the last deadline by half a year they have nothing better than "soon" they should have kept it to themselves. It's just pouring more oil onto the flames...
Don't get greedy...

I think it's nice to hear something (though there's been nothing they couldn't have posted 2 months ago...) and maybe they have reacted to our whining and moaning at last...
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Old 08-28-2009, 10:42 AM   #51
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Yeap.
That one more reason that made the choice to switch to ePub a easy for me
Yeah, good for you, but bad news to anybody needing dictionary support and (HarryT) NO, to use a Mobi dictionary on my phone is no solution at all... To everybody who needs a dictionary this FW is a dead end (I don't think the Mobi version will see other then bug fixing in the future)!
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Old 08-28-2009, 11:27 AM   #52
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Sorry, but my native language is german and when I looked it up:
- from latin "proprietarius" = the owner
- the original meaning is therefor "owned by someone", "belonging to someone"
- juridically it's meaning is "copyrighted"

Plus an english dictionary translated:
- company-owned (firmeneigen)
- secured (gesichert)
- secret (geheim)

So when I wrote about PDF being proprietary, I was referring to "being copyrighted" and "owned by a company" (Adobe), which it surely is...
Yes, that is the meaning of "proprietary", but although PDF was originally created and owned by Adobe, they handed "ownership" of it to the International Standard Organisation (ISO) a couple of years ago, and it is now an open standard.
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What's kind of strange is that after letting us wait for ages without any official statement (claiming that due to their bad experience with giving out dates they will no longer do that) now they announce the FW yet another time and have nothing better to offer than "soon".
That the firmware will be released "soon" (whether that means a few days or months) was already known. If after missing the last deadline by half a year they have nothing better than "soon" they should have kept it to themselves. It's just pouring more oil onto the flames...
I agree. This is no way to do business and just so ridiculous! Just keep throwing out crumbs, teasing us along...who handles customers like this and survives in a competitive marketplace?
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Old 08-28-2009, 12:26 PM   #54
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Bookeen have been in the eBook Reader market longer than anyone else, and they seem to be selling every device that they can make, so clearly it's a business strategy which is doing them no harm.
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Bookeen have been in the eBook Reader market longer than anyone else, and they seem to be selling every device that they can make, so clearly it's a business strategy which is doing them no harm.
I'd say that's a pretty short term view of how to run a business - if that is Bookeen's strategy, they probably won't be in business for the long-term.

At present, there is a shortage of ebook readers. As the supply becomes more plentiful and as more competitors enter the market, that "strategy" won't carry them very far. A year ago I would have recommended Bookeen to anyone, but not now. When I am looking around for my next eBook Reader or as people ask me about purchasing an eBook Reader, I do not look to nor shall I refer people to Bookeen's products. Sony will probably be the place that I will go for my next eBook Reader.
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What I've done (thanks to a suggestion by tompe!) is install my Mobi dictionary on Mobi Reader on my Smartphone. The Windows Mobile version of Mobi Reader lets you look words up in a dictionary (ie type them in).
The operating system of my mobile phone isn't windows, and I won't buy a new phone just for that.
And even if it was, I don't want to put my reader down, take my phone, use the dictionary, put my phone back again and pick up my reader again. It's just too cumbersome.

So thanks for the suggestion, but I'll stick to mobi for now

by the way, I guess ' soon' is just bookeen's way of saying next monday (NO, I don't mean this in a sarcastic way )
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Bookeen have been in the eBook Reader market longer than anyone else, and they seem to be selling every device that they can make, so clearly it's a business strategy which is doing them no harm.
You know Harry, people around here almost make me laugh sometimes.
To moan about Bookeen, one must have been disappointed by Bookeen, which means he/she already owns a Bookeen device.

Now imagining Bookeen business model for the further future:
" Buy our product, and join the community to complain about us! "

*lol*
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Old 08-28-2009, 04:23 PM   #58
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Word of mouth can make a big difference in how a company is perceived. Just imagine if Bookeen was publishing new firmware updates constantly, and was always trying to implement user suggestions for improvements. This forum would be full of positive statements, instead of negative. It directly has an affect on sales, I am convinced. When I am considering a new product purchase, I read reviews on NewEgg, Amazon, etc. Those comments can make or break a sale, at least for me they do.
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Word of mouth can make a big difference in how a company is perceived. Just imagine if Bookeen was publishing new firmware updates constantly, and was always trying to implement user suggestions for improvements. This forum would be full of positive statements, instead of negative. It directly has an affect on sales, I am convinced. When I am considering a new product purchase, I read reviews on NewEgg, Amazon, etc. Those comments can make or break a sale, at least for me they do.
I agree. When I bought my Cybook it was because of the dictionary capability + mobipocket. I had a really good experience with my former reader (Palm TX) with that combo and thought to continue in the same line. But, alas, no improvement is forthcoming in that area - I think ever - since obviously mobipocket is becoming a dead end.
Since I own old Cybook it's possible that this firmware is the last one I'll be seeing for it and that means I'm stuck with cumbersome lookup and it's most annoying.
If I have to switch to ePub, I would like to have dictionary on the reader (and yes, I have it on my palm but how can I use it on a bus while standing and reading - third and fourth arm?) and only option right now is to go with Sony and I'm seriously considering it.
I'm not even thinking about Opus. If they make a dream device in the future and offer it for a decent amount of money I'll really have to convince myself to even consider it.
I know, I know. This post is rather bitter, but all this waiting and the only thing I get is better library navigation (and that's long overdue), no epub in mobi firmware, no improvement of lookup...
Gah!

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How good is the mobipocket support, however? I bet it does not use mobipocket's SDK, but rather something like FBReader... Even if the quality is good enough, implementing it would mean more work for Bookeen, and we don't want that, do we?
Seems fine to me. There are some differences
- No option to justify or not justify
- No option for running header
- Page numbering instead of a pageometer at the bottom. And one can go to a specific page number.

So yes, it's probably not the same reader as on the Cybook.

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