How Will Amazon Respond To The Nook?

BBRags · 10-21-2009, 04:13 PM

Will the Nook seriously cut into the Kindle's holiday sales this year? Amazon still has the lead in number of available ebooks (taking out the Google freebie books), right?

daffy4u · 10-21-2009, 04:20 PM

It will be interesting to see what happens. Lots of people know about the Kindle because even if they're shopping for other things on Amazon, they'll see Kindle ads. People go the B&N brick and mortar stores or website specifically to buy books, so it may be a smaller groups of eyes learning about the Nook.

How will B&N get the word out and will it be enough to make people aware enough to take a big enough chunk of holiday sales? Over time I think the nook will have more of an effect.

Edit: For some reason I read this to be about the readers not the ebooks. Sorry.

fugazied · 10-21-2009, 06:10 PM

I think they will just drop the price UNLESS they have secret Kindle upgrades coming out in time before christmas. Most companies release christmas product lines in October I think (Apple just released the new imacs for example).

desertgrandma · 10-21-2009, 06:12 PM

Well, so far on Amazon's site, the hardcover pre-order "Under the Dome" is listed for $9.00.

On BN its listed for $21......or, if you are a member, $18.90.

Sporadic · 10-21-2009, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desertgrandma

Well, so far on Amazon's site, the hardcover pre-order "Under the Dome" is listed for $9.00.

On BN its listed for $21......or, if you are a member, $18.90.

That's an Amazon vs Wal Mart thing. It has nothing to do with B&N

Athryn · 10-22-2009, 12:01 AM

My guess is that Amazon will release a patch soon that will allow users to use custom screensavers without having to hack it, so that the B&N reader can't tout that as a special feature.

kindlekitten · 10-22-2009, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athryn

My guess is that Amazon will release a patch soon that will allow users to use custom screensavers without having to hack it, so that the B&N reader can't tout that as a special feature.

I think that if they bother to put out a "patch" it will be rather more significant than that

juj1n · 10-22-2009, 01:56 AM

Did they combine the US and International Kindle into 1? There seems to be only 1 6 inch kindle 2 now...

The Hooded Claw · 10-22-2009, 03:23 AM

I doubt we'll have a new Kindle product before Christmas, I think the lower price and the international model is "it" for this year. I'd think any newer product would've been leaked by now.

As Juj1n noted, on the Amazon website the US only Kindle 2 seems to have disappeared. It looks like all 6" screen Kindles are international models now....And the price has dropped to $259!

I ordered a US Kindle at the time of the price drop, so I am still within the 30 days.....Although I suspect Amazon will keep Sprint service going for a couple of years, I'll bet they eventually shift to only AT&T (provider of wireless for the International version in the US). In the interests of long-term usability, I'm thinking of returning my US version for an international one so I'll be on AT&T wireless.

Lilly · 10-22-2009, 03:41 AM

The Kindle would be just right if Amazon adds DRM Epud & PDF. Only so I'm able to get library books because I don't buy PDF books but I do check them out from the library. The borrowing thing sounds great because I don't want to share my Amazon Account. I've had that account for years and buy a lot of things beside ebooks using my Amazon account. I don't want to ever have to give my password to another person. A co-worker has been hinting about how she will get a Kindle for Christmas now they are $259 and hinting about sharing my account since I've had a Kindle since Oct 2008 and have a lot of books and I've told her straight out, no way. Besides these 2 things, I don't think the Nook has anything on the Kindle. The web browser of the Kindle is a fantastic thing to have even if it's slow. I don't think the Nook has enough features for me to actually buy another 6 in reader even though I was tempted for a minute, I got over it real quick.

HarryT · 10-22-2009, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBRags

Will the Nook seriously cut into the Kindle's holiday sales this year? Amazon still has the lead in number of available ebooks (taking out the Google freebie books), right?

I doubt it will have a significant effect. The Kindle sells world-wide; the Nook is US-only.

kindlekitten · 10-22-2009, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lilly

The Kindle would be just right if Amazon adds DRM Epud & PDF. Only so I'm able to get library books because I don't buy PDF books but I do check them out from the library. The borrowing thing sounds great because I don't want to share my Amazon Account. I've had that account for years and buy a lot of things beside ebooks using my Amazon account. I don't want to ever have to give my password to another person. A co-worker has been hinting about how she will get a Kindle for Christmas now they are $259 and hinting about sharing my account since I've had a Kindle since Oct 2008 and have a lot of books and I've told her straight out, no way. Besides these 2 things, I don't think the Nook has anything on the Kindle. The web browser of the Kindle is a fantastic thing to have even if it's slow. I don't think the Nook has enough features for me to actually buy another 6 in reader even though I was tempted for a minute, I got over it real quick.

wow that was rather audacious of her! I'd have to be sharing an awful lot more than office space with someone to share my Kindle account (or pretty much any type of account requiring a password)

markbot · 10-22-2009, 09:06 AM

the most important decision is based on the bookstore service

1. the B&N ebook store is a lot more expensive
2. for ebooks, googlebooks is completely useless because of the poor optical character recognition. there are so many mistakes in the books that it is actually better not to read the book at all than to read the book with all the mistakes
3. B&N will eventually end up like Blockbuster as their business model is obsolete. if u actually believe B&N's ebook will be successful this would mean that the rest of their business will be obsolete....thus u should not buy their reader. this will leave u with an expensive paperweight. amazon's business model is the model of the future.

I think Amazon should respond by putting kindles in some retail stores.

desertgrandma · 10-22-2009, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sporadic

That's an Amazon vs Wal Mart thing. It has nothing to do with B&N

Fair enough. How about this?

They've reduced the price of their international Kindle to $259.

There is a great start.

HarryT · 10-22-2009, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desertgrandma

Fair enough. How about this?

They've reduced the price of their international Kindle to $259.

There is a great start.

Do you think that had anything to do with the Nook? The Nook really isn't a rival to the international Kindle.

10-21-2009, 04:13 PM	#1
BBRags Connoisseur Posts: 59 Karma: 12 Join Date: Nov 2008 Device: None	How Will Amazon Respond To The Nook? Will the Nook seriously cut into the Kindle's holiday sales this year? Amazon still has the lead in number of available ebooks (taking out the Google freebie books), right?

10-21-2009, 04:20 PM	#2
daffy4u I'm Super Kindle-icious Posts: 6,734 Karma: 2434103 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Long Drive, Calinadia Candafornia Device: KDXG, KT, Oasis	It will be interesting to see what happens. Lots of people know about the Kindle because even if they're shopping for other things on Amazon, they'll see Kindle ads. People go the B&N brick and mortar stores or website specifically to buy books, so it may be a smaller groups of eyes learning about the Nook. How will B&N get the word out and will it be enough to make people aware enough to take a big enough chunk of holiday sales? Over time I think the nook will have more of an effect. Edit: For some reason I read this to be about the readers not the ebooks. Sorry. Last edited by daffy4u; 10-21-2009 at 06:27 PM.

10-22-2009, 09:06 AM	#13
markbot Guru Posts: 612 Karma: 7511929 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New York, NY Device: Amazon Kindle Paperwhite 2	the most important decision is based on the bookstore service 1. the B&N ebook store is a lot more expensive 2. for ebooks, googlebooks is completely useless because of the poor optical character recognition. there are so many mistakes in the books that it is actually better not to read the book at all than to read the book with all the mistakes 3. B&N will eventually end up like Blockbuster as their business model is obsolete. if u actually believe B&N's ebook will be successful this would mean that the rest of their business will be obsolete....thus u should not buy their reader. this will leave u with an expensive paperweight. amazon's business model is the model of the future. I think Amazon should respond by putting kindles in some retail stores. Last edited by markbot; 10-22-2009 at 09:08 AM.

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10-21-2009, 06:10 PM	#3
fugazied Wizard Posts: 1,305 Karma: 1958 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: iPod Touch	I think they will just drop the price UNLESS they have secret Kindle upgrades coming out in time before christmas. Most companies release christmas product lines in October I think (Apple just released the new imacs for example).

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desertgrandma Enjoying the show.... Posts: 14,270 Karma: 10462841 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Arizona Device: A K1, Kindle Paperwhite, an Ipod, IPad2, Iphone, an Ipad Mini & macAir	Well, so far on Amazon's site, the hardcover pre-order "Under the Dome" is listed for $9.00. On BN its listed for $21......or, if you are a member, $18.90.

10-22-2009, 12:01 AM	#6
Athryn Member Posts: 12 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Gainesville, VA Device: Kindle DX	My guess is that Amazon will release a patch soon that will allow users to use custom screensavers without having to hack it, so that the B&N reader can't tout that as a special feature.

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juj1n Connoisseur Posts: 95 Karma: 350 Join Date: Sep 2009 Device: Lots!	Did they combine the US and International Kindle into 1? There seems to be only 1 6 inch kindle 2 now...

10-22-2009, 03:23 AM	#9
The Hooded Claw Connoisseur Posts: 70 Karma: 6050 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Oklahoma! Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Android phone with Kindle app, Kindle 4 in reserve	I doubt we'll have a new Kindle product before Christmas, I think the lower price and the international model is "it" for this year. I'd think any newer product would've been leaked by now. As Juj1n noted, on the Amazon website the US only Kindle 2 seems to have disappeared. It looks like all 6" screen Kindles are international models now....And the price has dropped to $259! I ordered a US Kindle at the time of the price drop, so I am still within the 30 days.....Although I suspect Amazon will keep Sprint service going for a couple of years, I'll bet they eventually shift to only AT&T (provider of wireless for the International version in the US). In the interests of long-term usability, I'm thinking of returning my US version for an international one so I'll be on AT&T wireless.

10-22-2009, 03:41 AM	#10
Lilly Guru Posts: 688 Karma: 2090 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Sony PRS-505, PRS-900 & PRS-950, Amazon Kindle2	The Kindle would be just right if Amazon adds DRM Epud & PDF. Only so I'm able to get library books because I don't buy PDF books but I do check them out from the library. The borrowing thing sounds great because I don't want to share my Amazon Account. I've had that account for years and buy a lot of things beside ebooks using my Amazon account. I don't want to ever have to give my password to another person. A co-worker has been hinting about how she will get a Kindle for Christmas now they are $259 and hinting about sharing my account since I've had a Kindle since Oct 2008 and have a lot of books and I've told her straight out, no way. Besides these 2 things, I don't think the Nook has anything on the Kindle. The web browser of the Kindle is a fantastic thing to have even if it's slow. I don't think the Nook has enough features for me to actually buy another 6 in reader even though I was tempted for a minute, I got over it real quick.