The negative reviews have started on Amazon.

Mintaka · 02-23-2009, 02:16 PM

I noticed that all the spammers and trolls have taken up residence on the Kindle 2 product page and have started giving 1 star reviews for a product they don't even own.

I especially like the guy who hates the Kindle 2 because it doesn't have integrated solar power or a color screen for under $100.

zelda_pinwheel · 02-23-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mintaka

I noticed that all the spammers and trolls have taken up residence on the Kindle 2 product page and have started giving 1 star reviews for a product they don't even own.

I especially like the guy who hates the Kindle 2 because it doesn't have integrated solar power or a color screen for under $100.

what ? are you saying that's unreasonable ?

daffy4u · 02-23-2009, 02:20 PM

I've been reporting them.

pshrynk · 02-23-2009, 02:20 PM

He should be pointed to the Pomegranet Page. He can sit and breathlessly wait for his ideal to come to life for as long as it takes...

pilotbob · 02-23-2009, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mintaka

I especially like the guy who hates the Kindle 2 because it doesn't have integrated solar power or a color screen for under $100.

User reviews are nothing more than someones opinion. You know what they say, they are like, er.... well everyone has one. And, he is entitled to his.

BOb

JSWolf · 02-23-2009, 02:43 PM

And it is very easy to read these reviews and know when someone is being serious or stupid. And the reviews based on nothing at all are the stupid ones.

kguthrie · 02-23-2009, 03:07 PM

I'm ready to hear some real reviews on the Kindle 2. I just used a friends K1 over the weekend and was really impressed by it. I want to buy one, but I want to see the K2 first.

Ervserver · 02-23-2009, 03:13 PM

Nobody seems to mind the positive reviews by people who don't have a Kindle II yet

Sparrow · 02-23-2009, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotbob

User reviews are nothing more than someones opinion. You know what they say, they are like, er.... well everyone has one. And, he is entitled to his.

BOb

Yes, but other people are entitled to their opinion of his opinion; and you're entitled to your opinion of their opinion of his opinion; and I'm entitled to my opinion of your opinion of their opinion of his opinion.
... it's just that I don't have one.

Sporadic · 02-23-2009, 03:23 PM

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One reason I cannot give a 5 star rating is because of the DRM (digital rights management). When you purchase a Kindle book, you don't actually own it like you do with a paper book. Part of the charm of paper books is that after you are done reading them, you can give them to a family member or a friend. Or you can sell it used. With Kindle books, you cannot do this and are pretty much stuck. Even though you have paid for the book, you cannot give it to a friend or sell it when you are finished reading it. There are few books that I need or want to keep after reading so consider the price you pay for Kindle books to be more of a rental fee, rather than a purchase.

I'm amazed at how many people think this.

With a paperback, there is wear and tear. With a digital copy, there would be no difference between a used or new copy. Why would anybody pay more if you could buy a used copy for cheaper or chip in a dollar and start a book train with multiple people?

zelda_pinwheel · 02-23-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sporadic

I'm amazed at how many people think this.

With a paperback, there is wear and tear. With a digital copy, there would be no difference between a used or new copy. Why would anybody pay more if you could buy a used copy for cheaper or chip in a dollar and start a book train with multiple people?

meh, the "wear and tear" argument is only valid to a certain point. i've seen used books that probably had never been read. i've also seen used books that looked like they had been through a war. resale of ebooks is problematic because it implies copying the file, and therefore potentially copyright infringement, but i still have to agree that we lose some rights we should legitimately have as purchasers of content (including the "first sale" doctrine).

TheJohnNewton · 02-23-2009, 03:44 PM

Those aren't reviews they just happen to be in the review section.

stoogeswoman · 02-23-2009, 03:46 PM

I wonder if there's any way Amazon could let you know which reviewers actually purchased the product from them? That would help a lot.

radiationman · 02-23-2009, 04:24 PM

The trolls are slow to get to Amazon...

cNet has had their page up for easily two weeks and the bogus "reviews" have been there since the page went live...

stinsmom · 02-23-2009, 04:55 PM

I just think of it this way, everyone who won't buy one just frees up one for me! Woo Hoo!

02-23-2009, 02:16 PM	#1
Mintaka Member Posts: 22 Karma: 1282 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Washington State Device: K2, K3 3G+WiFi, Nexus One (2.2)	The negative reviews have started on Amazon. I noticed that all the spammers and trolls have taken up residence on the Kindle 2 product page and have started giving 1 star reviews for a product they don't even own. I especially like the guy who hates the Kindle 2 because it doesn't have integrated solar power or a color screen for under $100.

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Ervserver Wizard Posts: 2,624 Karma: 1008294 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Iowa, USA Device: Nook Simple Touch	Nobody seems to mind the positive reviews by people who don't have a Kindle II yet

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TheJohnNewton Addict Posts: 256 Karma: 144599 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: Boox Nova 2	Those aren't reviews they just happen to be in the review section.

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02-23-2009, 04:24 PM	#14
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