NAEB/Baen sells Cybook OEM device for US$375 - Page 5

nekokami · 11-10-2007, 06:23 PM

I think another possible consideration is that people who buy ebook readers are not a typical cross-section of the population, at this point. I would venture to guess they are generally more technical than the population at large, which may affect which OS they use. (Of course, it could also affect how many systems they might have access to-- at this point, probably most people who have Linux running on a machine have a license for some flavor of Windows on that box-- but it could be pretty old. How new does the version of Windows have to be to support Connect?)

I'm not trying to get into the whole Mac vs. PC thing, just speculating on how the usual demographic numbers might or might not fit the ebook reader population.

tompe · 11-10-2007, 07:26 PM

I run Linux on all my machines. I happens to have Windows XP on the laptop I am writing this on but this is only for emergencies and buying a book is not an emergency worth rebooting the computer for.

ashalan · 11-11-2007, 04:59 AM

... anybody tried to use Mobipocket Reader and Sony's Software (Connect?) with Wine?

Been using Wine under Linux sucessfully to even play games and as far as I know Wine should also work for Apples running OSX+ (it's Unix after all).

So maybe anybody can give it a shot.

delphidb96 · 11-11-2007, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ashalan

... anybody tried to use Mobipocket Reader and Sony's Software (Connect?) with Wine?

Been using Wine under Linux sucessfully to even play games and as far as I know Wine should also work for Apples running OSX+ (it's Unix after all).

So maybe anybody can give it a shot.

Feel free. MobiReader is a free download.

Being one of those with a Windoze household, this isn't a problem for me. Although I'm just about ready to buy an iMac to test out for myself.

Derek

ashalan · 11-11-2007, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by delphidb96

Feel free. MobiReader is a free download.

Being one of those with a Windoze household, this isn't a problem for me. Although I'm just about ready to buy an iMac to test out for myself.

Derek

No Linux installed anywhere currently and since all the software I need runs on windows and I use windows at work I cannot be bothered to install Linux, to be honest

Was just trying to push the people affected by the issue toward a possible solution

wallcraft · 11-11-2007, 12:14 PM

The problem for wine may be USB support.

In any case, I think MobiPocket should pay CodeWeavers to port their Windows Reader to OSX and Linux under wine. This would most likely only provide a Desktop solution (not a Linux handheld device solution), but would greatly improve their image for (probably) not much money.

delphidb96 · 11-11-2007, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wallcraft

The problem for wine may be USB support.

In any case, I think MobiPocket should pay CodeWeavers to port their Windows Reader to OSX and Linux under wine. This would most likely only provide a Desktop solution (not a Linux handheld device solution), but would greatly improve their image for (probably) not much money.

Might be a good idea. However, think for a minute... Bookeen already *has* the information for Mobipocket's format, legally. And they've already made their internal reader capable of opening and displaying Secure Mobipocket ebooks. What's to prevent them from making a Linux Desktop version MobiReader? Or for that matter, a Mac OS/X version?

Bookeen, are you listening???

Derek

Nate the great · 11-11-2007, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by delphidb96

What's to prevent them from making a Linux Desktop version MobiReader? Or for that matter, a Mac OS/X version?

The contract they signed with Mobipocket.

IreneDelse · 11-11-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate the great

The contract they signed with Mobipocket.

I'll second that!

I guess that, as a third party, Bookeen have access to enough Mobipocket info to develop Mobi support on their device, but to develop a concurrent Mobi reader software would be a breach of contract.

Now, I do hope Mobipocket is paying attention to the input from us Cybook buyers who who would like to have a Mobipocket reader software compatible with their Apple or Linux personal computer...

DaleDe · 11-11-2007, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by IreneDelse

I'll second that!

I guess that, as a third party, Bookeen have access to enough Mobipocket info to develop Mobi support on their device, but to develop a concurrent Mobi reader software would be a breach of contract.

Now, I do hope Mobipocket is paying attention to the input from us Cybook buyers who who would like to have a Mobipocket reader software compatible with their Apple or Linux personal computer...

The Windows version (what you really want) is a lot different from the version that Bookeen has. It has the manager stuff and the conversion stuff built in. No other version from MobiPocket has that extra portion of the reader.

Dale

delphidb96 · 11-11-2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate the great

The contract they signed with Mobipocket.

But what I meant to express was that since they *have* signed a contract with Mobipocket *and* they already know how the Secure Mobi format works, as well as how Linux works, what's to prevent them from doing the port *FOR* Mobipocket? Other than Mobipocket's desire to do so in house?

Derek

JSWolf · 11-11-2007, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ashalan

... anybody tried to use Mobipocket Reader and Sony's Software (Connect?) with Wine?

Been using Wine under Linux successfully to even play games and as far as I know Wine should also work for Apples running OSX+ (it's Unix after all).

So maybe anybody can give it a shot.

Wine is a good idea to the Ebook Library with. But do not use Wine to upgrade the firmware. You have a good chance of bricking. You'll need a true Windows system. An emulated Windows may not always have the USB timing needed for a critical application such as a firmware upgrade.

bwit · 11-11-2007, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Wine is a good idea to the Ebook Library with. But do not use Wine to upgrade the firmware. You have a good chance of bricking. You'll need a true Windows system. An emulated Windows may not always have the USB timing needed for a critical application such as a firmware upgrade.

I haven't received my Cybook yet (sigh) but I was under the impression that the firmware was updated from the SD card.

Bob

JSWolf · 11-11-2007, 06:06 PM

Someone mentioned using Ebook Library under Wine. Nothing to do with the Gen3's firmware updates.

Alisa · 11-12-2007, 04:11 PM

So has anyone been contacted about purchase details or possible ship dates? I signed up on the list but I'm wondering if I just somehow got overlooked. Any word on if we're going to have to wait until December?

11-11-2007, 04:59 AM	#63
ashalan Connoisseur Posts: 59 Karma: 405 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Berne, Switzerland Device: Cybook Gen3	As for using Windows Only Software ... ... anybody tried to use Mobipocket Reader and Sony's Software (Connect?) with Wine? Been using Wine under Linux sucessfully to even play games and as far as I know Wine should also work for Apples running OSX+ (it's Unix after all). So maybe anybody can give it a shot.

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11-10-2007, 06:23 PM	#61
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	I think another possible consideration is that people who buy ebook readers are not a typical cross-section of the population, at this point. I would venture to guess they are generally more technical than the population at large, which may affect which OS they use. (Of course, it could also affect how many systems they might have access to-- at this point, probably most people who have Linux running on a machine have a license for some flavor of Windows on that box-- but it could be pretty old. How new does the version of Windows have to be to support Connect?) I'm not trying to get into the whole Mac vs. PC thing, just speculating on how the usual demographic numbers might or might not fit the ebook reader population.

11-10-2007, 07:26 PM	#62
tompe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,452 Karma: 7185064 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Linköpng, Sweden Device: Kindle Voyage, Nexus 5, Kindle PW	I run Linux on all my machines. I happens to have Windows XP on the laptop I am writing this on but this is only for emergencies and buying a book is not an emergency worth rebooting the computer for.

11-11-2007, 12:14 PM	#66
wallcraft reader Posts: 6,975 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	The problem for wine may be USB support. In any case, I think MobiPocket should pay CodeWeavers to port their Windows Reader to OSX and Linux under wine. This would most likely only provide a Desktop solution (not a Linux handheld device solution), but would greatly improve their image for (probably) not much money.

11-11-2007, 06:06 PM	#74
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 74,336 Karma: 129333690 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Someone mentioned using Ebook Library under Wine. Nothing to do with the Gen3's firmware updates.

11-12-2007, 04:11 PM	#75
Alisa Gadget Geek Posts: 2,324 Karma: 22221 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Paperwhite, Kindle 3 (retired), Skindle 1.2 (retired)	So has anyone been contacted about purchase details or possible ship dates? I signed up on the list but I'm wondering if I just somehow got overlooked. Any word on if we're going to have to wait until December?

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