Any Idea How long? - Page 2

zelda_pinwheel · 07-27-2008, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

Unless they have multiple personality syndrome ... and only one of the personalities is a Luddite (!!) .... say, that would be an interesting base for a short story. Luddite keeps waking up next to pieces of electronic equipment .... hehehe.

that would be hilarious. i would read that story.

Alisa · 07-28-2008, 01:50 PM

How long? Let's just say I fully expect a robot butler and a flying car by then.

itdincor · 08-01-2008, 01:28 AM

..."But, the HP TC1000 is a good, workhorse type tablet PC that allows reading in portrait or landscape, runs Windows XP, and can read all the formats the poster has mentioned. It is frequently available on eBay for less than $250, has a nice color screen, and the stylus is a very comfortable size for writing and highlighting.

I highly recommend it as a larger form factor ebook reader."...

Perhaps this is the better option. I will certainly find out. And, by "no proprietary formats", I meant that I'll not be forced to use a specific document type, or forced into buying products from a monopolistic source. Things like the IPod and its music, for example. I obviously was unclear on that.

Anyway, it seems, from the answers here, reading other forum posts in the meantime, and general research, that I might be better off with a tablet pc, of which I know little.

In any event, it appears I've wasted the time of responders, and apologize. From what I"ve been able to learn in the last few days, it doesn't appear that I'll be buying an EReader any time soon.

Thanks anyway, folks, and those who said I didn't know what I wanted were correct. But now, I realize I DON'T want any of the present EReaders out there. They will not meet mine requirements.

So, thanks anyway; doesn't appear I'll bother you again.

Patricia · 08-01-2008, 07:41 AM

Itdincor, thanks for telling us about your decision. It's good that you have your mind clearer about what you want now. And the other posters just couldn't resist a light-hearted bit of banter/speculation/pedantry.
Whatever you eventually choose, drop in and look our book upload section, the news section, or our Deals and freebies section. There are a fair number of people here who don't actually have specialist devices but find some useful material.

igorsk · 08-01-2008, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itdincor

Perhaps this is the better option. I will certainly find out. And, by "no proprietary formats", I meant that I'll not be forced to use a specific document type, or forced into buying products from a monopolistic source. Things like the IPod and its music, for example. I obviously was unclear on that.

None of the current readers "force" you to use a specific format. All of them support open formats.
Sony Reader: TXT, PDF, RTF, EPUB
Kindle: TXT (others with conversion into Mobi)
Jinke Hanlin: TXT, PDF, RTF, HTML, FB2
Cybook Gen3: PDF, TXT, HTML
iRex iLiad: TXT, PDF, RTF, HTML

Actually, even iPods will happily play MP3s and unencrypted AAC files.

HarryT · 08-01-2008, 01:03 PM

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but PDF is just as "proprietory" a format as, say, MobiPocket or BBeB, isn't it? The format specification is "owned" by Adobe.

igorsk · 08-01-2008, 01:15 PM

The PDF specification is open and you don't need license to read or create PDFs. And it seems the "ownership" has been transferred to ISO recently.

iterati · 08-01-2008, 01:28 PM

The specification of the format published recently (1 Jule 2008); it became open recently. That doesn't mean a lot, it still remains a fixed-layout format that while might be suitable for paper it isn't for electronic machines.

DaleDe · 08-01-2008, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iterati

The specification of the format published recently (1 Jule 2008); it became open recently. That doesn't mean a lot, it still remains a fixed-layout format that while might be suitable for paper it isn't for electronic machines.

True, but it is no longer proprietary.

Dale

HarryT · 08-02-2008, 04:24 AM

Thanks Dale - that's what I was asking; whether or not the specification was still owned by Adobe. "Openness" to tools, etc, has nothing to be with being "proprietory"; many proprietory formats (eg Mobi) have excellent free tools available for creating them. Given a choice between the "open" PDF format and the "proprietory" MobiPocket format for eBooks, MobiPocket is clearly (IMHO) a better choice.

hpkeong · 08-06-2008, 06:18 AM

I am a eBook user (grey color) - for more than 7 years and Table PC user - for more than 4 years. It is impossible to have everything IN but at a lower price.....if there is any...tell me...

My hanlin ebook is about USD 350 (in total including freight) and Tablet PC (USD 3000 with some upgrading)...they play different roles. Use computer to work and earn to buy ebook to enjoy life.....shall we not mix-up?

lordmax · 08-06-2008, 11:29 AM

HI

I'll think that the only way for you is an tablet pc

I suggest an HP-TC1100

try this:
http://shop.ebay.it/items/HP-TC1100_...1Q51Q5farrQ5A1

08-06-2008, 11:29 AM	#27
lordmax Enthusiast Posts: 42 Karma: 11 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Turin, Italy Device: iLiad, Opus, cybook gen10, Palm LifeDrive, NetBookVaio, Kindle, Tolino	HTC 1100 HI I'll think that the only way for you is an tablet pc I suggest an HP-TC1100 try this: http://shop.ebay.it/items/HP-TC1100_...1Q51Q5farrQ5A1

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07-28-2008, 01:50 PM	#17
Alisa Gadget Geek Posts: 2,324 Karma: 22221 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Paperwhite, Kindle 3 (retired), Skindle 1.2 (retired)	How long? Let's just say I fully expect a robot butler and a flying car by then.

08-01-2008, 01:28 AM	#18
itdincor Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sand Point, Alaska Device: None yet	..."But, the HP TC1000 is a good, workhorse type tablet PC that allows reading in portrait or landscape, runs Windows XP, and can read all the formats the poster has mentioned. It is frequently available on eBay for less than $250, has a nice color screen, and the stylus is a very comfortable size for writing and highlighting. I highly recommend it as a larger form factor ebook reader."... Perhaps this is the better option. I will certainly find out. And, by "no proprietary formats", I meant that I'll not be forced to use a specific document type, or forced into buying products from a monopolistic source. Things like the IPod and its music, for example. I obviously was unclear on that. Anyway, it seems, from the answers here, reading other forum posts in the meantime, and general research, that I might be better off with a tablet pc, of which I know little. In any event, it appears I've wasted the time of responders, and apologize. From what I"ve been able to learn in the last few days, it doesn't appear that I'll be buying an EReader any time soon. Thanks anyway, folks, and those who said I didn't know what I wanted were correct. But now, I realize I DON'T want any of the present EReaders out there. They will not meet mine requirements. So, thanks anyway; doesn't appear I'll bother you again.

08-01-2008, 07:41 AM	#19
Patricia Reader Posts: 11,505 Karma: 8720163 Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Wales, UK Device: Sony PRS-500, PRS-505, Asus EEEpc 4G	Itdincor, thanks for telling us about your decision. It's good that you have your mind clearer about what you want now. And the other posters just couldn't resist a light-hearted bit of banter/speculation/pedantry. Whatever you eventually choose, drop in and look our book upload section, the news section, or our Deals and freebies section. There are a fair number of people here who don't actually have specialist devices but find some useful material.

08-01-2008, 01:03 PM	#21
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Please correct me if I'm wrong, but PDF is just as "proprietory" a format as, say, MobiPocket or BBeB, isn't it? The format specification is "owned" by Adobe.

08-01-2008, 01:15 PM	#22
igorsk Wizard Posts: 3,442 Karma: 300001 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belgium Device: PRS-500/505/700, Kindle, Cybook Gen3, Words Gear	The PDF specification is open and you don't need license to read or create PDFs. And it seems the "ownership" has been transferred to ISO recently.

08-01-2008, 01:28 PM	#23
iterati Zealot Posts: 100 Karma: 170 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Greece Device: Hanlin V3, RCA REB1100, iPaq 214	The specification of the format published recently (1 Jule 2008); it became open recently. That doesn't mean a lot, it still remains a fixed-layout format that while might be suitable for paper it isn't for electronic machines.

08-02-2008, 04:24 AM	#25
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Thanks Dale - that's what I was asking; whether or not the specification was still owned by Adobe. "Openness" to tools, etc, has nothing to be with being "proprietory"; many proprietory formats (eg Mobi) have excellent free tools available for creating them. Given a choice between the "open" PDF format and the "proprietory" MobiPocket format for eBooks, MobiPocket is clearly (IMHO) a better choice.

08-06-2008, 06:18 AM	#26
hpkeong Heavy eBook User Posts: 64 Karma: 13 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Malaysia Device: Hanlin V8, V3, Fujitsu Tablet PC, EEE PC	I am a eBook user (grey color) - for more than 7 years and Table PC user - for more than 4 years. It is impossible to have everything IN but at a lower price.....if there is any...tell me... My hanlin ebook is about USD 350 (in total including freight) and Tablet PC (USD 3000 with some upgrading)...they play different roles. Use computer to work and earn to buy ebook to enjoy life.....shall we not mix-up?