08-30-2012, 03:13 PM | #61 |
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Ok. I understand you know.
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What goes around comes around. Apple has to answer for where they got their designs.
http://www.staggeron.org/universe.ht...rtrek_vs_apple |
08-30-2012, 03:56 PM | #63 |
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I think Apple came out with a pretty nice smartphone, and other companies jumped on the bandwagon of producing smartphone's of their own (just like they did PCs, laptops, eReaders, etc.). If you have a phone that uses a screen as an input device then they are going to look similar. I don't see any way around that. The interfaces for navigation will probably also be similar. However, in this case the operating systems are completely different. I remember when Apple sued Microsoft over "Look and Feel," and the lawsuit was never decided, but Lotus v. Borland was decided in court and the "Look and Feel" argument was rejected. So, as a layman, I didn't think Samsung was violating Apple's patents or copyrights.
However, a judge let it go to trial, and let a jury make the decision. So, what I think really doesn't matter. The issue is decided. Samsung is guilty (at least until they win an appeal). Furthermore, I haven't heard a general consensus among legal experts that Samsung got a raw deal. |
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Entire verticts have been overturned based on what a juror said. It remains to be seen if this one will.
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We now have a full transcript of a BBC interview with the jury foreman:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19425051 He lays to rest some of the concerns about the size of the task and the speed at which they performed, but I still don't see evidence for a proper consideration of the prior art. He again seems to have led the jury with discussions of source code and processors. Sorry for the long quote, but here he is talking about prior art: Quote:
In this respect I think it's reasonable to be debating this. It looks like some key points of the deliberations turned on faulty logic. There's also no reference to some of the key prior art, the ones related to hardware look and feel rather than functionality. Last edited by Graham; 08-31-2012 at 06:44 AM. |
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Apple didn’t invent the iPod, they stole the idea. In fact, in 1978, Apple Corps, the Beatles-founded holding company and owner of their record label, Apple Records, filed a lawsuit against Apple Computer for trademark infringement. The suit was settled in 1981 with an undisclosed amount being paid to Apple Corps. As a condition of the settlement, Apple Computer agreed not to enter the music business, and Apple Corps agreed not to enter the computer business. We all know how this ended. Apple didn’t invent the tablet computer, they stole the idea. Apple didn’t invent the smartphone, they stole the idea. Part of the way innovation works is that you build on the works of others. That doesn't just mean wholesale copying, but trying to take what works and improve on it, or take what doesn't work well and figure out a way to make it work better. Apple did this many, many times. It seems rather hypocritical to get all bent out of shape because others are doing the same thing. |
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A similar patent battle between Samsung and Apple is occurring in Japan. However, in this case, the judge ruled that Samsung was not in violation of Apple patents. Similarly, a patent lawsuit in South Korea was dismissed -- although the "bounce back" feature when you get to the end of a scrolling screen was deemed a violation.
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