11-24-2010, 10:36 AM | #31 |
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11-24-2010, 10:39 AM | #32 |
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11-24-2010, 11:12 AM | #33 |
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11-24-2010, 11:21 AM | #34 |
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I just tested that. I created a new Amazon account, registered Kindle for Mac to that account, and bought a (free) book by clicking on the "Buy it now with 1-Click®" button.
I did not have to agree to any licensing terms to buy this ebook. The one link I did see with "Terms of Use" turned up a "We can't find the page you were trying to reach." It seems to me that I've bought that book. |
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But as was said before, in some cases it is legal (no gray area) for the DRM to be stripped. But the issue is that nobody has challenged if the DMCA has killed fair use or not. So there is no way we can say DRM stripping is illegal and be sure we are correct. |
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Jon - I gave you the solution in another HC thread but I'll repeat it here. Only install the basic MS Reader, not the update. Only use 32 bit IE8 to download the books. I have no problems downloading LIT books this way. I'll continue to strip DRM for personal use as long as the publishers and bookstores use "Buy" or "Purchase" buttons. |
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11-24-2010, 11:38 AM | #38 | |
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Either way, stripping the DRM is, I think, illegal because of the DMCA which states that it is illegal to bypass DRM. THAT mess does require a lawyer to figure out. That said, very few of my ebooks currently possess DRM in any form. If a law is unjust we are compelled to disobey. |
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11-24-2010, 11:49 AM | #41 | |
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11-24-2010, 11:54 AM | #42 |
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Personally I don't worry that much about DRM that much. Becuase of my computer security background I firmly believe in the old addage "for every measure security officers take to make information secure there are five or six ways around that security measure." I see many software packages out there that will remove the security from the ebooks that I am not that worked up over it.
I preferr to keep my ebook purchases on the Borders account thus I am nto taking up hard drive space on my PC. I know that the borders books are DRMed but I am not that concerned. I am more concerned about getting a ebook store to sell me ebooks for the lowest possible price. |
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11-24-2010, 12:40 PM | #44 |
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You ignored the rest of what I said. Just where do I agree that I am licensing and not buying?
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11-24-2010, 12:44 PM | #45 |
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I have one book at the HC ebook store. Sadly, it's in Lit and I don't have an activated copy of MSReader on this computer (and last time I tried to activate one I couldn't).
Luckily, it was a free book, because I'm writing it off. It's the glory of DRM - all it really does is make it more difficult for people to do what their payment supposedly enabled them to do. |
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