FIRE vs TABLET - Page 10

=X= · 10-18-2011, 02:56 PM

I don't know for $60 less you lose out on the gorilla glass but you get a microUSB card.

You don't have access to Amazon or Google but if your willing to convert the device in about 1hrs(total to collect the files and read the instructions). The process is 15min. you can have a full Android device. That has both access to Amazon, B&N, and Google.

Heck I'm going to pick one of these up for myself it's a great deal. I was thinking of buying my kids a 4" Galaxy Player or Kindle but for the price this can't be beat.

=X=

WT Sharpe · 10-18-2011, 03:16 PM

I'm a bit wary of the fact that the Fire comes only with a WiFi network connection. I have a problem with keeping my Kindle Keyboard connected to my WiFi network. When I do get it working, it seems to only last for a few days, then I lose it again. For some reason my network doesn't show up on the Kindle's network scan, and when it does, it rarely accepts my password on the first take. I have no such problems with any of my other devices, such as my iPad, but as the Kindle Keyboard also has 3G, I've taken to saying to heck with the WiFi and just doing everything via the 3G.

I wonder if they'll come out with a 3G Fire? That would probably be worth it, even if you had to pay a monthly charge for the 3G.

kennyc · 10-18-2011, 03:33 PM

I have 3G on my Xoom which I'm paying a hefty amount for and have never really used other than testing it a couple of times. (also a free upgrade to 4G which I'm not likely to take advantage of simply because I don't use it) The Wi-fi works great at home and at work.

on a related note, I had a problem with my previous wireless router with some computers it simply would not connect. Have not had a problem since I replaced it.

SCION · 10-18-2011, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by emilikins

... it'll be like the ice cubes at the bottom of your cup. You're tilting it up, they're all hanging in the back (hold it, hold it ...), and then one ice cube releases (someone fire sales just before Christmas), and then they all tumble after.

WT Sharpe · 10-18-2011, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

I have 3G on my Xoom which I'm paying a hefty amount for and have never really used other than testing it a couple of times. (also a free upgrade to 4G which I'm not likely to take advantage of simply because I don't use it) The Wi-fi works great at home and at work.

on a related note, I had a problem with my previous wireless router with some computers it simply would not connect. Have not had a problem since I replaced it.

I've never had a problem with the iPad. I put the info in once, and it's worked ever since. Good thing, too: My iPad is Wifi only. I wonder if there's a problem with my Kindle's WiFi, or if the 3G and WiFi interfere with each other? The Kindle works fine, but only on 3G.

kennyc · 10-18-2011, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

I've never had a problem with the iPad. I put the info in once, and it's worked ever since. Good thing, too: My iPad is Wifi only. I wonder if there's a problem with my Kindle's WiFi, or if the 3G and WiFi interfere with each other? The Kindle works fine, but only on 3G.

Funny...or not really. Definitely seems associated with the Kindle, but like in my situation, the same computer that had trouble connecting worked fine with the new router so...not sure what to tell you. I assume you can disable the 3G and it still does the same thing?

WT Sharpe · 10-18-2011, 04:35 PM

When I disconnect the 3G, I have no connection at all, and it won't let me check the WiFi connection without turning on the 3G. Strange.

kennyc · 10-18-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

When I disconnect the 3G, I have no connection at all, and it won't let me check the WiFi connection without turning on the 3G. Strange.

That sounds broke (or as we say here at work when using the technical term: Broke-as*-s*it)

WT Sharpe · 10-18-2011, 04:42 PM

Oh, well. As long as the 3G works, I'm happy.

slkissinger · 10-18-2011, 05:14 PM

WT Sharpe: literally last week my brother had a similar issue. It was with a new laptop vs. other devices connecting to his home wireless router. the new thing would connect for a few minutes, then not. But other devices were rock solid. He returned that particular laptop and got a completely different one (different manufacturer even), and the same issue.

Replaced the router, and everything was fine. All I'm saying is... can't hurt to replace your wireless router. I think I've gone through at least 3 over the years. They just go flakey over time (at least for me, and apparently, my brother)

covfam · 10-18-2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by slkissinger

WT Sharpe: literally last week my brother had a similar issue. It was with a new laptop vs. other devices connecting to his home wireless router. the new thing would connect for a few minutes, then not. But other devices were rock solid. He returned that particular laptop and got a completely different one (different manufacturer even), and the same issue.

Replaced the router, and everything was fine. All I'm saying is... can't hurt to replace your wireless router. I think I've gone through at least 3 over the years. They just go flakey over time (at least for me, and apparently, my brother)

Ive gone through 4 wireless routers (3 of them Linksys) in last 5 years i dont they last as good as they used to, id go get a router for under $100 before returning computers and such.

sadievan · 10-18-2011, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by covfam

Ive gone through 4 wireless routers (3 of them Linksys) in last 5 years i dont they last as good as they used to, id go get a router for under $100 before returning computers and such.

Agreed. I don't think they last as long as they used to either. Before buying another one though, I would probably try to reset it. Especially if it's fairly new.

DaleDe · 10-18-2011, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sadievan

Agreed. I don't think they last as long as they used to either. Before buying another one though, I would probably try to reset it. Especially if it's fairly new.

I have an old one and a reset every now and then keeps it running fine. I just unplug it for a few seconds and plug it back in whenever there is a problem connecting wirelessly.

Dale

Blossom · 10-18-2011, 08:15 PM

I have a cheap Walmart Linksys router that I bought in 2005. I upgraded the firmware and that helped some. I live in an apartment settings so I find changing the channel frequency helped alot with Kindle 3 connection issues. There's a program called inSSIDer 2 you can download for free that will show what channels your neighbors are using. Just choose the one that isn't overlapped as much and gives you a strong signal. Most people never mess with this setting but it's really helps if all your neighbors are using default 6 and your network keeps dropping. I can't use channels 1-4 or my signal drops completely and five of my neighbors use default 6 with one neighbor using 11 so I went with Channel 8 because some microwaves interfere with Channel 9.

So before you throw out your router, Try changing the channel first.

sadievan · 10-18-2011, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaleDe

I have an old one and a reset every now and then keeps it running fine. I just unplug it for a few seconds and plug it back in whenever there is a problem connecting wirelessly.

Dale

I unplug mine every now and then too.

Actually what I was talking about was resetting it through the reset button found on the back of the router. Resets everything to factory defaults.

Carol

10-18-2011, 04:35 PM	#142
WT Sharpe Bah, humbug! Posts: 39,073 Karma: 157049943 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Device: Kindle Oasis, iPad Pro, & a Samsung Galaxy S9.	When I disconnect the 3G, I have no connection at all, and it won't let me check the WiFi connection without turning on the 3G. Strange. Last edited by WT Sharpe; 10-18-2011 at 04:38 PM.

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10-18-2011, 02:56 PM	#136
=X= Wizard Posts: 3,671 Karma: 12205348 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: Galaxy S, Nook w/CM7	I don't know for $60 less you lose out on the gorilla glass but you get a microUSB card. You don't have access to Amazon or Google but if your willing to convert the device in about 1hrs(total to collect the files and read the instructions). The process is 15min. you can have a full Android device. That has both access to Amazon, B&N, and Google. Heck I'm going to pick one of these up for myself it's a great deal. I was thinking of buying my kids a 4" Galaxy Player or Kindle but for the price this can't be beat. =X=

10-18-2011, 03:16 PM	#137
WT Sharpe Bah, humbug! Posts: 39,073 Karma: 157049943 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Device: Kindle Oasis, iPad Pro, & a Samsung Galaxy S9.	I'm a bit wary of the fact that the Fire comes only with a WiFi network connection. I have a problem with keeping my Kindle Keyboard connected to my WiFi network. When I do get it working, it seems to only last for a few days, then I lose it again. For some reason my network doesn't show up on the Kindle's network scan, and when it does, it rarely accepts my password on the first take. I have no such problems with any of my other devices, such as my iPad, but as the Kindle Keyboard also has 3G, I've taken to saying to heck with the WiFi and just doing everything via the 3G. I wonder if they'll come out with a 3G Fire? That would probably be worth it, even if you had to pay a monthly charge for the 3G.

10-18-2011, 03:33 PM	#138
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,872 Karma: 118716293 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2; Kindle Fire	I have 3G on my Xoom which I'm paying a hefty amount for and have never really used other than testing it a couple of times. (also a free upgrade to 4G which I'm not likely to take advantage of simply because I don't use it) The Wi-fi works great at home and at work. on a related note, I had a problem with my previous wireless router with some computers it simply would not connect. Have not had a problem since I replaced it.

10-18-2011, 04:42 PM	#144
WT Sharpe Bah, humbug! Posts: 39,073 Karma: 157049943 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Device: Kindle Oasis, iPad Pro, & a Samsung Galaxy S9.	Oh, well. As long as the 3G works, I'm happy.

10-18-2011, 05:14 PM	#145
slkissinger Connoisseur Posts: 80 Karma: 2177726 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Multiple Kindles, Pocketbook Touch HD3, Kobo Clara HD, Xiaomi InkPalm	WT Sharpe: literally last week my brother had a similar issue. It was with a new laptop vs. other devices connecting to his home wireless router. the new thing would connect for a few minutes, then not. But other devices were rock solid. He returned that particular laptop and got a completely different one (different manufacturer even), and the same issue. Replaced the router, and everything was fine. All I'm saying is... can't hurt to replace your wireless router. I think I've gone through at least 3 over the years. They just go flakey over time (at least for me, and apparently, my brother)

10-18-2011, 08:15 PM	#149
Blossom Treasure Seeker Posts: 18,708 Karma: 26026435 Join Date: Mar 2010 Device: Kobo HD Glo, Kindles, Kindle Fires, Andriod Devices	I have a cheap Walmart Linksys router that I bought in 2005. I upgraded the firmware and that helped some. I live in an apartment settings so I find changing the channel frequency helped alot with Kindle 3 connection issues. There's a program called inSSIDer 2 you can download for free that will show what channels your neighbors are using. Just choose the one that isn't overlapped as much and gives you a strong signal. Most people never mess with this setting but it's really helps if all your neighbors are using default 6 and your network keeps dropping. I can't use channels 1-4 or my signal drops completely and five of my neighbors use default 6 with one neighbor using 11 so I went with Channel 8 because some microwaves interfere with Channel 9. So before you throw out your router, Try changing the channel first.

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