09-01-2012, 09:51 AM | #16 |
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Is a library allowed to offer a physical book that is not available in Braille or in an audio version? If so, shouldn't someone sue?
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Presumably, then, American libraries aren't allowed to have CDs, because deaf people can't listen to them?
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That some text-to-speech option that it's disabled at almost all the ebooks? And I agree, get a Kindle device, you'll see the wide selection at your library.
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Then again, many deaf people refuse to think of themselves as disabled so they may simply be refusing to sue over it. http://www.beyonddiscovery.org/conte...page.asp?I=261 |
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The key issue, it seems to me, is captured in this quote:
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The comments about CDs are something else entirely. It is not a case of simply being able to choose or foster the development of a competing technology to allow deaf people to enjoy CDs. And, if I remember correctly, in the US, the one exception for DRM removal is for usage by people with disabilities. |
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There are even some well-known and, in one case, highly accomplished, deaf musicians. http://www.ted.com/talks/evelyn_glen...to_listen.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3q8W...2&feature=plcp |
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Publishers objected at first, but seem to have calmed down. There's also an incredible resource of public domain books, where no publisher can turn off TTS. |
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Thanks for illustrating why anti-discrimination legislation is necessary. |
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The issue here is that there are e-readers accessible to the blind (including Kindles and the iPads and iPod touches mentioned in the article), and the library chose e-readers that were not accessible to the blind. You aren't required to do the impossible, but you have to make an accommodation if it can be done reasonably. |
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The Google Nexus (and some other Android devices) has accessibility features similar to those of the ipad for a lot less too. Of course if the iPads/Touches are primarily to be bought and loaned out as reading devices there's no need for the most expensive versions, as mentioned in the article, of either device. The cheapest versions would be fine.
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