Sondaggio su apertura forum italiano/Italian forum Poll

[Rob Lister]

Originally Posted by kya

Ciao a tutti,

come suggerito da beppe, apro questo sondaggio per chiedere in particolare agli utenti italiani (ma non solo a loro) se sono interessati all'apertura di un forum nella nostra lingua.

Si è già parlato della cosa in questo thread ma essendo ormai aperto da oltre un anno è difficile capire in quanti parteciperebbero veramente solo in base a quello. Quindi facciamo un bel censimento (tanto è il periodo ) e poi lo staff valuterà.

E 'davvero necessario per creare un forum che si rivolge ad altre lingue? Gli italiani (o cinesi, o spagnolo, ecc) hanno esperienze di lettura in modo che differiscono dalle loro controparti inglesi che un forum a parte è necessario? Visto come è facile invocare un traduttore su un computer moderno, ognuno può tranquillamente leggere (e rispondere a) qualsiasi lingua quasi con la stessa facilità in quanto possono proprio.

[kya]

Originally Posted by Rob Lister

E 'davvero necessario per creare un forum che si rivolge ad altre lingue? Gli italiani (o cinesi, o spagnolo, ecc) hanno esperienze di lettura in modo che differiscono dalle loro controparti inglesi che un forum a parte è necessario? Visto come è facile invocare un traduttore su un computer moderno, ognuno può tranquillamente leggere (e rispondere a) qualsiasi lingua quasi con la stessa facilità in quanto possono proprio.

La richiesta nasce perché esistono già due sezioni in tedesco e francese, quindi un'esigenza diversa evidentemente c'è. Più che diverse esperienze di lettura penso ci siano esigenze diverse in merito alla disponibilità di dispositivi in quel paese, assistenza, acquisto di ebook nella propria lingua, ecc..

Poi scrivere in altre lingue in tutte le sezioni del forum secondo me sarebbe un fastidio per tutti gli altri utenti.

[Rob Lister]

Originally Posted by kya

La richiesta nasce perché esistono già due sezioni in tedesco e francese, quindi un'esigenza diversa evidentemente c'è. Più che diverse esperienze di lettura penso ci siano esigenze diverse in merito alla disponibilità di dispositivi in quel paese, assistenza, acquisto di ebook nella propria lingua, ecc..

Poi scrivere in altre lingue in tutte le sezioni del forum secondo me sarebbe un fastidio per tutti gli altri utenti.

Jag antar att tekniken kommer att göra detta till en icke-fråga. Någon har förmodligen redan utvecklat ett automatiskt översätter plug-in för UBB. Så det ingen roll vilket språk de har skrivit in den, kommer det att dyka upp på det språket oavsett.

[beppe]

Originally Posted by Rob Lister

Jag antar att tekniken kommer att göra detta till en icke-fråga. Någon har förmodligen redan utvecklat ett automatiskt översätter plug-in för UBB. Så det ingen roll vilket språk de har skrivit in den, kommer det att dyka upp på det språket oavsett.

Il nostro presume che la tecnologia renderà questo un non-problema. Qualcuno probabilmente ha già sviluppato un plug-in per tradurre automaticamente per UBB. Quindi non ha importanza quale lingua l'hanno scritto, apparirà in quella lingua a prescindere.



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[tubemonkey]

Queste combinazioni di lettere mi lasciano perplesso

[beppe]

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

Queste combinazioni di lettere mi lasciano perplesso

Queste combinazioni Questa combinazione di lettere mi lasciano perplesso

Urdu.

[nrapallo]

Originally Posted by beppe

Queste combinazioni Questa combinazione di lettere mi lasciano perplesso

Urdu.

Translation:

This combination of letters leaves me baffled

[beppe]

Originally Posted by nrapallo

Translation:

This combination of letters leaves me baffled

the urdu combination of letters means

e poi c'è il contenuto
and then there is the content

According to Google


Italian language has a particular character, absurd, surreal.

[vishcompany]

Yes.
I agree with the opinion, that it might draw Italian users in first place. Once they are here, they still will be checking the English specific forums, when looking for solutions. And eventually start posting.

[Ravensknight]

why just Italian?

If italian writers [not authors] make up a large portion of MR's overall audience, I don't see why not. If they don't however, then I can foresee campaigns for every language under the sun.

[italianReader]

The question is a little bit misleading.
Maybe (since I'm italian as you can easily guess ) I would participate to an italian forum but as a general rule I would be against it.

My english is far (very far, indeed) from perfect but i prefer to know that the useful information is kept as "accessible" as possible. I am strongly convinced that is far more important being able to read than to write and a religious monolingual approach is the way to go.

For instance I was a little bit disappointed with the german forum when I was about to buy a pocketbook since I can't read german at all and that forum was an information mine. Yeah sure, you can always use an online translator, but that's just one more hassle.

[paola]

Originally Posted by italianReader

The question is a little bit misleading.
Maybe (since I'm italian as you can easily guess ) I would participate to an italian forum but as a general rule I would be against it.

My english is far (very far, indeed) from perfect but i prefer to know that the useful information is kept as "accessible" as possible. I am strongly convinced that is far more important being able to read than to write and a religious monolingual approach is the way to go.

For instance I was a little bit disappointed with the german forum when I was about to buy a pocketbook since I can't read german at all and that forum was an information mine. Yeah sure, you can always use an online translator, but that's just one more hassle.

but this would be a problem if there were to be subforums (or fora ) - as far as I understand it, here we are talking about a general forum, possibly for the discussion of books - and I really miss not being up to speed with what happens in contemporary italian literature, so it would be nice to have a place to discuss of Italian books. Sure, you could do that in the general discussion forum, but my guess is that even with the best will in the world any thread with such a limited audience would quickly finish in teh back pages, and many people wouldn't even know it existed. For instance, there was a thread started by Beppe I think on books in Italian and access to Italian libraries for those of us who live outside Italy, but it is hard to find it now back on page 4...

EDIT: The German Pocketbook forum is however an exception, as "Pocketbook Europe" is based in Germany, with one of the moderators being a representative of Pocketbook, while no Pocketbook representative is any longer writing in the English language Pocektbook forum, so this is why most of the relevant information is there. But this is really an exception, as far as I know. Even if there were to be an Italian Pocketbook sub-forum, say, it would end up with very little traffic as the French one, as my bet is that the majority of posters would be in reply to questions by users who know little English and do not feel confident asking qeustions in the general forums.

[italianReader]

Paola probably you are right. Probably I'm just (mis)judging the usefulness of an italian subforum based on my non-usage of the currently available non-english forums (I beg pardon teacher, fora ).

Somebody corrects me if I'm wrong, probably the right way to evaluate the usefulness of an italian subforum would be to evaluate:

- How many mobileread users would be able to use the italian forum,
- How much the italian speakers could benefit by it,
- How much of a problem could be for those users who can't read italian,
- How many new users an italian forum could attract.

The first point is probably the goal of this thread, the second and the third could be estimated by looking at the other non-english fora and are dependent on the first one and the fourth point is just a big question mark.

On a last thought I agree with the possibilities described by Paola. Being able to discuss the contemporary italian literature once in a while wouldn't be that bad.