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Old 12-14-2014, 07:35 AM   #1
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Making your Kindle more privacy-respectful?

Has anyone figured out anything yet about what kind of information on our reading habits our kindle shares with amazon and how?
This is really bothering me. I mean, the folks at amazon obviously know which ebooks I buy from them. Yet I'm not that confortable with them knowing possibily anything I do on my Kindle, such as my reading speed or how many notes I take while reading, my bookmarks and highlights, last page read, which ebooks I sideload on my device, etc.

I guess that a jailbroken device could allow you some kind of control over these data. Is anybody working on this?

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Old 12-14-2014, 08:06 AM   #2
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Has anyone figured out anything yet about what kind of information on our reading habits our kindle shares with amazon and how?
This is really bothering me. I mean, the folks at amazon obviously know which ebooks I buy from them. Yet I'm not that confortable with them knowing possibily anything I do on my Kindle, such as my reading speed or how many notes I take while reading, my bookmarks and highlights, last page read, which ebooks I sideload on my device, etc.

I guess that a jailbroken device could allow you some kind of control over these data. Is anybody working on this?
Been there, done that, own the t-shirt.

Early in the game, Amazon simply had the Kindle upload information to their system.

Now, the emphasis is on using their cloud services with everything they can think of on your Kindle.
Have you read their statement about respecting the privacy of what information you transfer to their cloud is?
There isn't one.

P.S: Amazon owns what is ranked as the worlds 16th most powerful super computer (and a lot of ones smaller).
Just in case you are wondering if they have the computer power to data-mine and correlate every bit and byte you send them (or store on their system).
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Old 12-14-2014, 08:43 AM   #3
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So no solution?
I mean, if I upload a file to their cloud I assume no privacy is involved.
But I feel that having all my activity on my kindle logged, even when I'm offline, is a little bit different. Besides, having the device in our hands, we could theoretically identify the process(es) that log and uploads those data and take some kind of measure.
At least to have a clear idea of what we're sharing with amazon. I mean, are they tracking only the ebooks I buy from them, or are they getting a list of every single ebook I read?
In a 20 years scenario that's a little bit intimidating...

I know I could keep my kindle on airplane mode all the time, buy their books from my pc and transfer them via usb. Yet said information would only pile up to be transfered all at once the first time I'd be forced to turn wifi on.

Given those concerns, should I have bought some generic android-based ereader?
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So no solution?
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Yes there are several solutions, all posted and discussed to death years ago.
Been there, done that, own the t-shirt.

At least of the technical aspects -

We can't control the actions of the end-user.
Such as what bookmarks an end-user "syncs" with their Amazon account storage, or what words they lookup or ....
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Old 12-14-2014, 09:38 AM   #5
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I did a quick search before posting but didn't go far behind, I'll do a deeper search.

If you happen to have some of those threads at hand, would you please link them? Only if it's no trouble, I'll search them anyway. Thanks


EDIT: Found the thread about the KUAL Firewall with BBB filter.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=205925

Here's another interesting thread, I paste the link here for future reference:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51371

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Old 12-14-2014, 11:39 AM   #6
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So after some hours of reading I'm confused.
Kindle logs a lot of stuff but it doesn't seem to send those logs to amazon at the moment?
Am I correct?
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Old 12-14-2014, 12:55 PM   #7
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There is no doubt the Kindle does a lot of diagnostic logging.

What remains up for debate is Amazon's motive, or whether anyone should give a darn (name me one piece of internet technology that isn't) especially compared with the likes of e.g. Google, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft.

And if I am not mistaken, Amazon CS must ping your Kindle to upload the logs, which they care enough to do if you phone in with a problem and they think it might help.

The fact it is theoretically out there does trouble some people though. Not me.

They already know what I buy, yasher koach if they want to know how often I turn the page as I take the annotations I asked them to archive.

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