Germany Halts Distribution Of Galaxy Tab 10.1 In Europe (Except Netherlands) In Apple

RockdaMan · 08-09-2011, 06:54 PM

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According to some retailers, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 became the fastest-selling tablet since the iPad 2 when it launched in Britain.

The Regional Court of Dusseldorf has granted Apple a preliminary injunction against the sale and marketing of the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 across all of Europe except the Netherlands. It is possible to apply for a pan-European injunction in any country which, if upheld, covers all of the EU. The judge backed Apple’s claim that Samsung’s tablet had infringed on its intellectual property and copied elements of the iPad 2.

While Samsung can appeal against the judgment, the injunction will still stand in the meantime. Any appeal would be heard in around four weeks' time and would be heard by the same judge.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...in-Europe.html

edit: a different article

tubemonkey · 08-09-2011, 07:25 PM

This patent war is getting quite amusing to watch

rdfry · 08-09-2011, 09:22 PM

That is f'ed up. Apple sucks

RockdaMan · 08-09-2011, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rdfry

That is f'ed up. Apple sucks

Apple?

...not the two judges that ruled the same in two different and far away lands?

rdfry · 08-09-2011, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RockdaMan

Apple?

...not the two judges that ruled the same in two different and far away lands?

Yeah the judges should have thrown this lawsuit out.

RockdaMan · 08-09-2011, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rdfry

Yeah the judges should have thrown this lawsuit out.

Impress us with your judicial skills: Why?

rdfry · 08-09-2011, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RockdaMan

Impress us with your judicial skills: Why?

Because in my opinion it is a frivolous lawsuit to stifle their competition.

RockdaMan · 08-10-2011, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rdfry

Because in my opinion it is a frivolous lawsuit to stifle their competition.

Is there a possibility that they have violated the law? Any possibility?

Dave_S · 08-10-2011, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RockdaMan

Is there a possibility that they have violated the law? Any possibility?

Since patents are not law, that is not an issue. Unfortunately, it is completely legal for companies to obtain frivolous patents and then use them to stifle innovation, as Apple has been doing.

aceflor · 08-10-2011, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RockdaMan

Impress us with your judicial skills: Why?

@RockdaMan See ? That's what I meant, and I am sure you understand. The question is, do you do this on purpose ?

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Originally Posted by RockdaMan

Is there a possibility that they have violated the law? Any possibility?

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Originally Posted by Dave_S

Since patents are not law, that is not an issue. Unfortunately, it is completely legal for companies to obtain frivolous patents and then use them to stifle innovation, as Apple has been doing.

I second Dave_S opinion: it is not a legal issue, but it is still not fair-play, nor very intelligent. The Samsung Tab has been awaited with great anticipation in Germany, Samsung is a very present brand there. Apple is not doing their sinking image any good with such methods.

Now, I would be interested in your opinion on this. Be brave, do not just open a thread and post some provocative little sentences to accommodate it with your sauce, enlighten us with your opinion on this Samsung -Apple battle (and if you can, do please elaborate).
No flame, it is a promise, I am really interested to read what you have to say here.

RockdaMan · 08-10-2011, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave_S

Since patents are not law, that is not an issue. Unfortunately, it is completely legal for companies to obtain frivolous patents and then use them to stifle innovation, as Apple has been doing.

Patents are established by the law, and should not be violated, again as established by the law.. How does a company legally enforcing proper use of its property stifle innovation? This makes no sense. Apple did not release the first tablet. There were many on the market before the iPad. Why did Samsung not copy those other tablets? Apple didn't copy them, it tried something new. Samsung should try something new too.

Anyway, this is not a patent issue.

aceflor · 08-10-2011, 02:59 AM

In your reasoning, where does Samsung copy Apple, and Acer, Asus, Toshiba do not ?????

RockdaMan · 08-10-2011, 03:55 AM

They do, but are neither so blatant nor so profitable.

RockdaMan · 08-10-2011, 04:07 AM

http://www.usitc.gov/press_room/news.../er0808jj1.htm

aceflor · 08-10-2011, 06:44 AM

http://www.abendblatt.de/ratgeber/mu...y-Tablets.html

It's in german, sorry for that, but to clarify what it says is that the court did agree to halt the distribution momentarily to study the case and that it is not a patent breach case but a design copying case. Apple managed to have the distribution blocked in Europe by accusing Samsung of design copying, after trying (until now without success) to do the same in the US. The first decision of the Düsseldorf court does not mean at all that Apple will win their case in the end, whether in Europe or in the US.

Samsung might though change the design (again) of their Tab under the pressure not of the law nor of the media, but because Apple happens to be one of their biggest client in the chips business.

And I don't think that for Apple the problem is the Tab. I think it is the success of the Galaxy phones.

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RockdaMan Banned Posts: 1,644 Karma: 213512 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: On the other side of over there Device: Pandigital Novel, Kindle G1 (broken), iPod Touch	http://www.usitc.gov/press_room/news.../er0808jj1.htm

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aceflor Wizard Posts: 3,470 Karma: 48036360 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: where the sun lives, or so they say Device: Pocketbook Era, Pocketbook Inkpad 4, Kobo Libra 2, Kindle Scribe	http://www.abendblatt.de/ratgeber/mu...y-Tablets.html It's in german, sorry for that, but to clarify what it says is that the court did agree to halt the distribution momentarily to study the case and that it is not a patent breach case but a design copying case. Apple managed to have the distribution blocked in Europe by accusing Samsung of design copying, after trying (until now without success) to do the same in the US. The first decision of the Düsseldorf court does not mean at all that Apple will win their case in the end, whether in Europe or in the US. Samsung might though change the design (again) of their Tab under the pressure not of the law nor of the media, but because Apple happens to be one of their biggest client in the chips business. And I don't think that for Apple the problem is the Tab. I think it is the success of the Galaxy phones.

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