10-18-2012, 10:53 AM | #1 |
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Expiration Date Removal Request
I am a long time ebook buyer and am having a great deal of trouble with opening some of my older book purchases because the credit card with which I purchased the books expired. I have had to delete the books from my Nook, delete from Calibre, download and then reload to the device. This is time consuming and a real nuisance. Nor do I agree with the idea that something that I have purchased and paid for should have an expiration date just because the credit card I used has expired.
Is anyone else frustrated about this? I'd like to suggest that Calibre developers might want to remove the expiration date from the files that are sent to devices. Since I'm not a developer, I don't know if this is feasible or not. Last edited by Susan in Houston; 10-18-2012 at 10:58 AM. Reason: Typo |
10-18-2012, 11:57 AM | #2 |
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Books with an expiration date on them will be DRM protected. Calibre cannot do much with such books. You may find other sites that provide ways to allow DRM to be removed, but not on MobileRead.
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10-18-2012, 01:15 PM | #3 | |
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If I may, I'd suggest you paid a bit of more attention to the world around you. In that way you´d know what DRM was, how its current implementation affects all of us, consumers, and why many so vehemently oppose or fight it. I say only that your request is illegal and that people could end up in jail not only if they honor it, but just for pointing you to resources to accomplish it. |
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10-18-2012, 02:12 PM | #4 | |
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10-18-2012, 03:12 PM | #5 |
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I don't know why they need to use the expiration date as long as additional charges do not need to be processed.
People do change card issuers (the numbers) . So this begs the question: "If I change cards associated with my accunt (if I had one), Do all the OLD purchases permanently 'Expire'? |
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10-18-2012, 04:52 PM | #6 | |
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Oh, and it *raises* the question, "begging the question" is a specific logical fallacy. Ok, I'll crawl back to my cave now... Edit: Back from the cave. Re-reading the first post, it seems you can re-download without paying additional fees. In that case it makes no sense at all, other than being a **** you to paying customers, who will also be left up the creek without a DRM server when (not if) they are taken off-line. See above, there is every reason for them not to keep a particular DRM-scheme alive forever. Last edited by Man Eating Duck; 10-18-2012 at 04:59 PM. |
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10-18-2012, 07:28 PM | #7 |
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Calibre doesn't remove DRM (the CC expiration date is part of that DRM), but there are solutions available from other sources that allow you to remove that DRM as you import the book into Calibre, and thus free up your books from restrictions. We can't discuss the specifics of DRM removal here, but we can suggest that you Google Apprentice Alf.
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10-21-2012, 09:00 AM | #8 |
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Thanks to all who commented. I didn't realize the expiration date was part of the DRM and thus illegal to remove. I am frustrated with this. In the best case I consider this harrassment and in the worst case it's an invasion of privacy!
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IMHO Making use of the expiration date of your credit card AFTER the transaction has been processed is a questionable (MC/Visa merchant bank card acceptance) terms of allowed use violation. |
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10-21-2012, 12:15 PM | #10 | |
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* It has not been tested in court for ebooks, but similar cases for DVD and CD media has been. Big content deliberately backed out before those cases ended in our supreme court, so sadly we have no "proper" legal precedence. |
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10-21-2012, 12:40 PM | #11 | |
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moving on - Amazon does not apply any of this card date nonsense to their protected books. the book is linked only to your amazon account, so unless you forget how to log into that your books will always be available on their servers. if you delete the book from your reader you can download a fresh copy, as many times as you like., & if you buy a different amazon reader you can link that to your account and access all your old books on your new device. And your amazon account still works even if you delete all of your cards details ( you just can't buy anything new) but then again Amazon don't sell epub & probably never will... Alf will teach you how to buy mobi & convert though. otherwise you will face this expired card DRM hassle every 3 years; no one issues cards with a longer than 3 year life & the trend is for that length to shorten, not lengthen, as card issuers like to bring out new cards with new features - like Visa's silly contactless payments "feature" thats just been added to mine. so - you want to own a legal ebook for 30 years ( not unreasonable, as I'm sure we have 30 year old paper books in the house somewhere) - that's 10 pointless iterations of delete, download, upload... to have to go thru. Last edited by cybmole; 10-21-2012 at 12:47 PM. |
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