Expansion of the Lounge - your vote counts (poll) - Page 9

desertgrandma · 03-30-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

May I just point out here that this request came from the MR membership not from the ownership. Also, by the poll it seems there is a demand for a separate area.

We have never been totalitarian here and are not about to start.

BOb

Point well taken. I did not mean to imply it was originated by ownership, altho I see that it looks that way, and I certainly apologize if I offended anyone by my bad choice of wording in that respect.

I am well aware of how the demands started, and perhaps that should have been addressed as 'authoritarian'.

nekokami · 03-30-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

Also, by the poll it seems there is a demand for a separate area.

Going by the poll, a separate area is preferred over a tag in the Lounge. The poll does not include an option "leave forum areas and tags unchanged, but ask people to respect serious posts/threads if needed," so there is no way to evaluate whether that option would have been preferred by the membership.

However, on the basis of the poll, there are a considerable number of people (albeit an unknown percentage of the active membership) who wish for a separate area, and I would not begrudge them their wish.

Dr. Drib · 03-30-2009, 08:28 PM

Hi, desertgrandma:

Right now, many of us are working on coming up with a title and a descriptor, which I encourage all interested parties to contribute to - if they so desire.

Your voice is indeed important.

Don

Dr. Drib · 03-30-2009, 09:21 PM

Descriptors:

1) "On-Topic Discussion unrelated to e-books and mobile devices."

2) "Various Discussion unrelated to e-books and mobile devices."

----

Names:

1) Perspective
2) Focus
3) Viewpoint

Don

desertgrandma · 03-30-2009, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Drib

Hi, desertgrandma:

Right now, many of us are working on coming up with a title and a descriptor, which I encourage all interested parties to contribute to - if they so desire.

Your voice is indeed important.

Don

Hello, Dr. Drib.

I'd like to make sure I"m perfectly clear on this.

You (group of members) have decided that you need your very own threads in which to post, without the intrusion of the silliness/hijacking which happens sometimes?

Of course, anyone can participate in these threads, providing they stay strictly on topic.

Is that correct?

HarryT · 03-31-2009, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desertgrandma

Hello, Dr. Drib.

I'd like to make sure I"m perfectly clear on this.

You (group of members) have decided that you need your very own threads in which to post, without the intrusion of the silliness/hijacking which happens sometimes?

Of course, anyone can participate in these threads, providing they stay strictly on topic.

Is that correct?

That's basically correct, yes. Many people feel that the Lounge is not a place that's condusive to serious discussions and have requested a separate forum for that purpose. Please let me stress that absolutely nothing whatsoever is being done TO the Lounge - it will continue exactly as it always has done.

kazbates · 03-31-2009, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by desertgrandma

Point well taken. I did not mean to imply it was originated by ownership, altho I see that it looks that way, and I certainly apologize if I offended anyone by my bad choice of wording in that respect.

I am well aware of how the demands started, and perhaps that should have been addressed as 'authoritarian'.

I don't think anyone is trying to be authoritarian or dictatorial.

It takes all kinds of people to make a community and the greatest achievement of MobileRead is that the majority of the people who post here feel that sense of community whether they like to be silly or not. Having two separate places to post where there are clearly defined guidelines, one geared more toward lightheartedness and the other more toward seriousness allows people to have a choice. No one is trying to restrict anyone from posting anywhere. To be honest, I am not "aware of how the demands started" but can't see the harm in the new forum.

I am sorry to see all the red "H"'s, though. I've bragged to my college-aged kids about how considerate and caring the posters to MobileRead are and I feel like the "H"'s are causing divisiveness and hard feelings.

Kaz

HarryT · 03-31-2009, 08:28 AM

Red H's? Sorry, what's that about?

Sparrow · 03-31-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kazbates

Having two separate places to post where there are clearly defined guidelines, one geared more toward lightheartedness and the other more toward seriousness allows people to have a choice.

I think serious topics will still be discussed in the Lounge, so it will be interesting to see how the new forum develops. (In my mind I'm imagining the new forum as appealing to members who have their sense of humour on a tight rein, and the Lounge for those who don't mind letting theirs have a gallop - but I could be wrong.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazbates

I am sorry to see all the red "H"'s, though. I've bragged to my college-aged kids about how considerate and caring the posters to MobileRead are and I feel like the "H"'s are causing divisiveness and hard feelings.

Kaz

I think some people were a bit miffed about how the Lounge (and those who post to it) were characterised in the original discussion.

Patricia · 03-31-2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Red H's? Sorry, what's that about?

See this thread:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43684

Ea · 03-31-2009, 08:39 AM

For those who missed it, the discussion regarding whether or not o introduce a new section is in this thread.
Edit: I added this because it seems that peple are asking all over again 'why' - probably it would be better to read the thread and discuss there?

@harryT; a lot of red H's has appeared in a number of people's avatars. I don't what it is about, but a guess could be this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlet_letter - though it's an A not a H. In any case, I'm not sure it's something nice.

YGG- · 03-31-2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sparrow

[...] There are heaps of members who don't currently participate in discussions, and it would be great to hear from more of them.[...]

Zipf's "law" : out of 100 persons who happen to get on a forum

1% contribute frequently
9% contribute irregularly
90% lurk & don't contribute

(My experience entirely, from numerous other forums; & I've been in the first, second & third position myself!

(Check yourself : difference between number of posts and number of readings)

kazbates · 03-31-2009, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sparrow

I think serious topics will still be discussed in the Lounge, so it will be interesting to see how the new forum develops. (In my mind I'm imagining the new forum as appealing to members who have their sense of humour on a tight rein, and the Lounge for those who don't mind letting theirs have a gallop - but I could be wrong.)

-> I agree completely! For further clarification, the new forum would give the original posters a choice to post their topic somewhere where it is understood that all subsequent posters should refrain from digressing to silliness. On the side of the coin, if someone posts a topic in the Lounge, they should do so with the understanding that the discussion could move toward the obscure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparrow

I think some people were a bit miffed about how the Lounge (and those who post to it) were characterised in the original discussion.

-> Well...that is just silly! Perhaps I am naive, but I never got the impression from any of the posters that they were denegrating the Lounge or those who post there. They were just looking for a place where they could post their topic without the discussion deviating too far from the point. Frankly, that happens a lot in the Lounge and I can understand how that would be frustrating to the original poster or others trying to be a part of that discussion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ea

For those who missed it, the discussion regarding whether or not o introduce a new section is in this thread.
Edit: I added this because it seems that peple are asking all over again 'why' - probably it would be better to read the thread and discuss there?

@harryT; a lot of red H's has appeared in a number of people's avatars. I don't what it is about, but a guess could be this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlet_letter - though it's an A not a H. In any case, I'm not sure it's something nice.

-> Thanks, EA. I did know of that thread and have contributed to it, but I got the impression that there might be more to it than that.

Kaz

Nate the great · 03-31-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kazbates

-> Well...that is just silly! Perhaps I am naive, but I never got the impression from any of the posters that they were denegrating the Lounge or those who post there.

You must have missed the term "karma whore". It was used at least once in this discussion..

Daithi · 03-31-2009, 09:22 AM

The "H"s refer to the imagined punishment of posters that hijack a thread, that is their avatar is stamped with a large red H for "Hijack".

View Poll Results: How to proceed with serious off-topic discussions
Add a new section "Salon" under Miscellaneous	89	80.91%
Add a new thread prefix "Keep it Sensible" to the Lounge	21	19.09%
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03-30-2009, 08:28 PM	#123
Dr. Drib Grand Sorcerer Posts: 44,748 Karma: 55645321 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Peru Device: Kindle: Oasis 3, Voyage WiFi; Kobo: Libra 2, Aura One	Hi, desertgrandma: Right now, many of us are working on coming up with a title and a descriptor, which I encourage all interested parties to contribute to - if they so desire. Your voice is indeed important. Don

03-30-2009, 09:21 PM	#124
Dr. Drib Grand Sorcerer Posts: 44,748 Karma: 55645321 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Peru Device: Kindle: Oasis 3, Voyage WiFi; Kobo: Libra 2, Aura One	Descriptors: 1) "On-Topic Discussion unrelated to e-books and mobile devices." 2) "Various Discussion unrelated to e-books and mobile devices." ---- Names: 1) Perspective 2) Focus 3) Viewpoint Don

03-31-2009, 08:28 AM	#128
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Red H's? Sorry, what's that about?

03-31-2009, 08:39 AM	#131
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	For those who missed it, the discussion regarding whether or not o introduce a new section is in this thread. Edit: I added this because it seems that peple are asking all over again 'why' - probably it would be better to read the thread and discuss there? @harryT; a lot of red H's has appeared in a number of people's avatars. I don't what it is about, but a guess could be this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlet_letter - though it's an A not a H. In any case, I'm not sure it's something nice.

03-31-2009, 09:22 AM	#135
Daithi Publishers are evil! Posts: 2,418 Karma: 36205264 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rhode Island Device: Various Kindles	The "H"s refer to the imagined punishment of posters that hijack a thread, that is their avatar is stamped with a large red H for "Hijack".