Customizing Display of Books on Device

PeterT · 02-04-2011, 09:10 PM

Can I modify the columns displayed on the "Show Books in the main memory of the device" display?

I'd love to see the Format of an eBook in that view, as opposed to having to look at the individual books to see the format.

kovidgoyal · 02-04-2011, 10:19 PM

No, that view is not customizable

CraftyDan · 05-05-2011, 11:03 PM

Do you have any interest in adding limited customization to the device view?

I can see not wanting to create more metadata/database items (like yes/no boxes and summary) which might not be available on a generic reader, but I'd love to sort by file system items (like the modify date or extension) which Calibre should be able to see.

theducks · 05-05-2011, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CraftyDan

Do you have any interest in adding limited customization to the device view?

I can see not wanting to create more metadata/database items (like yes/no boxes and summary) which might not be available on a generic reader, but I'd love to sort by file system items (like the modify date or extension) which Calibre should be able to see.

You do realise that device view is transient?
Some people have many devices, all with different capabilities.

In the Main Library view, you can show only those items that are on the Connected device.
Search: ondevice:true

Now you can see all the metadata (includes custom columns)

CraftyDan · 05-08-2011, 08:01 AM

Fair suggestion, but:

1. The modified date (among other parameters) may be different between the file on the device and the entry in the library.

2. There can be multiple file types associated with the same entry in the library, and multiple copies on the device with the same extension (different path).

3. If a book doesn't associate with the library, I have no entry on it in the library view. I may want to manage/edit the file, but not add it to the library.

(others may want more, but I'd be interested in these)

The point is, I want to see data about what is on the device, not what's in the library filtered by presence on the device. I'd like to see the directory data pulled straight from the reader to gauge age, quality (is that from before I adjusted the formatting?), file type and sort order. I can do this in explorer . . . but who want's to leave the app?

I expect this data to be transient between device connections. How could it be useful otherwise?

I understand the "different capability" device problem -- that's why I suggested a "limited" set -- but ALL devices have some sort of file system.

Maybe the better suggestion is to add more columns to the view (e.g. file name, extension, modify date, path) as opposed to customizing it. Perhaps even default-hiding some of the longer/less used data items.

chaley · 05-08-2011, 11:15 AM

I am somewhat confused.

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Originally Posted by CraftyDan

1. The modified date (among other parameters) may be different between the file on the device and the entry in the library.

The modified date is shown on device view -- the 'date' column

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2. There can be multiple file types associated with the same entry in the library, and multiple copies on the device with the same extension (different path).

Each book on the device has its own line in the device view.

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3. If a book doesn't associate with the library, I have no entry on it in the library view. I may want to manage/edit the file, but not add it to the library.

The device view shows you books that are not in the library.

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Maybe the better suggestion is to add more columns to the view (e.g. file name, extension, modify date, path) as opposed to customizing it. Perhaps even default-hiding some of the longer/less used data items.

You have columns for date and size today. You can see path, including the extension, by hovering over the cover image.

It seems that you are asking that various bits of the path to be available in separate columns in addition to the information in the details pane. Right?

CraftyDan · 05-10-2011, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chaley

The modified date is shown on device view -- the 'date' columnEach book on the device has its own line in the device view.

No. That's the creation date. In practice, I've found the mod date more useful than the creation. Both (or a selection of either) would be useful.

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The device view shows you books that are not in the library.

Yes, but in the previous post you sent me to the library view to look at anything but the default. My point is that info is spread between the two views and switching between them disconnects any sorting information.

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You can see path, including the extension, by hovering over the cover image.

That's a cute feature, but while it's nice, it's not obvious and not sortable.

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It seems that you are asking that various bits of the path to be available in separate columns in addition to the information in the details pane. Right?

Again, my point isn't just having the information spit out in a raw format or spread across two pages, but in sortable columns where it's needed. At a click I could group by format (file type), location (path), or sort the file names, which may be different than the book titles. All this data (except the mod date) is in the preview screen, but you can't sort on it.

There's bound to be other items others want -- customization would give the user more flexibility, but it may be technically difficult -- but these are items I can see practical use for now.

jesscat · 05-11-2011, 08:49 PM

There is as of one of the later 7 versions (7.57? 7.58?) a "Modified" column that, I believe, shows the date the book metadata was last modified. This is not the Date column, which shows the date the book was added - the new(ish) column is called Modified. I don't think it's visible by default - I think you have to go into your Toolbar (Preferences/Toolbar) and check it to make it visible, or right click on your column headers and click to show this column.

To your larger point: I understand the desire for this. It's something I've occasionally wished for as well - plus device-specific info, like the specific format of the books on my device, or whatever - but my understanding has always been - and I'm not sure where I inferred this; must have been from reading some post somewhere along the way - that it would be laborious to implement as calibre now stands, and because it is possible to get much of the way there by using the Library view and filtering out the items not on the device, I don't think there's too much demand. I am by no means and in no way an expert, however, so don't take this as definitive!

02-04-2011, 09:10 PM	#1
PeterT Grand Sorcerer Posts: 12,168 Karma: 73448616 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Device: Nexus 7, Clara, Touch, Tolino EPOS	Customizing Display of Books on Device Can I modify the columns displayed on the "Show Books in the main memory of the device" display? I'd love to see the Format of an eBook in that view, as opposed to having to look at the individual books to see the format.

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02-04-2011, 10:19 PM	#2
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,860 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	No, that view is not customizable

05-05-2011, 11:03 PM	#3
CraftyDan Zealot Posts: 126 Karma: 7724 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Middle Ga Device: PRS-600 and PRS-350	Do you have any interest in adding limited customization to the device view? I can see not wanting to create more metadata/database items (like yes/no boxes and summary) which might not be available on a generic reader, but I'd love to sort by file system items (like the modify date or extension) which Calibre should be able to see.

05-08-2011, 08:01 AM	#5
CraftyDan Zealot Posts: 126 Karma: 7724 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Middle Ga Device: PRS-600 and PRS-350	Fair suggestion, but: 1. The modified date (among other parameters) may be different between the file on the device and the entry in the library. 2. There can be multiple file types associated with the same entry in the library, and multiple copies on the device with the same extension (different path). 3. If a book doesn't associate with the library, I have no entry on it in the library view. I may want to manage/edit the file, but not add it to the library. (others may want more, but I'd be interested in these) The point is, I want to see data about what is on the device, not what's in the library filtered by presence on the device. I'd like to see the directory data pulled straight from the reader to gauge age, quality (is that from before I adjusted the formatting?), file type and sort order. I can do this in explorer . . . but who want's to leave the app? I expect this data to be transient between device connections. How could it be useful otherwise? I understand the "different capability" device problem -- that's why I suggested a "limited" set -- but ALL devices have some sort of file system. Maybe the better suggestion is to add more columns to the view (e.g. file name, extension, modify date, path) as opposed to customizing it. Perhaps even default-hiding some of the longer/less used data items.

05-11-2011, 08:49 PM	#8
jesscat Groupie Posts: 156 Karma: 354 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: US Device: iPad mini, iPad 2, Kindle 3	There is as of one of the later 7 versions (7.57? 7.58?) a "Modified" column that, I believe, shows the date the book metadata was last modified. This is not the Date column, which shows the date the book was added - the new(ish) column is called Modified. I don't think it's visible by default - I think you have to go into your Toolbar (Preferences/Toolbar) and check it to make it visible, or right click on your column headers and click to show this column. To your larger point: I understand the desire for this. It's something I've occasionally wished for as well - plus device-specific info, like the specific format of the books on my device, or whatever - but my understanding has always been - and I'm not sure where I inferred this; must have been from reading some post somewhere along the way - that it would be laborious to implement as calibre now stands, and because it is possible to get much of the way there by using the Library view and filtering out the items not on the device, I don't think there's too much demand. I am by no means and in no way an expert, however, so don't take this as definitive!