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Old 02-06-2008, 04:36 AM   #1
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Question E-ink reader, mainly html?

Hello,

I could need some help. I have been looking for an e-ink reader, but are having some problem deciding what device that would suit me best.

I will mainly use it to read fanfiction (and simular) so html and txt support and the way it handles them is probably the most important thing. "Real" e-book formats doesn't interest me, I want the device mainly as an alternitive to the computer (or to printing from the computer).

I also don't want to buy anything in any form what so ever from Sony.

I have looked (as in browsed the internet, wiki and forum) and Hanlin V3 and Bookeen both look good, but perhaps I'm missing something?

I'm living in Europe (Sweden), but almost everything I'll read will probably be in English.

Thanks!
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Old 02-06-2008, 05:15 AM   #2
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Hello,

I could need some help. I have been looking for an e-ink reader, but are having some problem deciding what device that would suit me best.

I will mainly use it to read fanfiction (and simular) so html and txt support and the way it handles them is probably the most important thing. "Real" e-book formats doesn't interest me, I want the device mainly as an alternitive to the computer (or to printing from the computer).

I also don't want to buy anything in any form what so ever from Sony.

I have looked (as in browsed the internet, wiki and forum) and Hanlin V3 and Bookeen both look good, but perhaps I'm missing something?

I'm living in Europe (Sweden), but almost everything I'll read will probably be in English.

Thanks!

If you have plenty of money in your pocket, like having many features and a big screen the iLiad might be something for you?
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Old 02-06-2008, 11:32 AM   #3
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Hello,

I could need some help. I have been looking for an e-ink reader, but are having some problem deciding what device that would suit me best.

I will mainly use it to read fanfiction (and simular) so html and txt support and the way it handles them is probably the most important thing. "Real" e-book formats doesn't interest me, I want the device mainly as an alternitive to the computer (or to printing from the computer).

I also don't want to buy anything in any form what so ever from Sony.

I have looked (as in browsed the internet, wiki and forum) and Hanlin V3 and Bookeen both look good, but perhaps I'm missing something?

I'm living in Europe (Sweden), but almost everything I'll read will probably be in English.

Thanks!
Your requirements are fairly minimal so any of the units would do what you want. Probably the iLiad and Kindle are overkill but the cybook, Hanlin, or sony would be fine if you want e-Ink. The eBookwise Reader is the cheapest but requires conversion of html using a freely available program.

There are some fanfic feed programs that can be used to download fanfic directly and collect them for you to make the reading experience pleasant.
One is http://www.home-eisele.de/

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Old 02-06-2008, 11:50 AM   #4
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I've read a few fics on live_journal with the kindle. It's a decent option, and in a pinch you can use the built-in web browser to get your fics. That's especially useful if you're away from your PC and want something new to read. But, and this is the big one, it not for certain that the web browser function will remain free.

Dale, that's an interesting site. I'll have to give it a try and report back.
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Dale, that's an interesting site. I'll have to give it a try and report back.
I'll add a bit to the discussion here. There are two fully operational fanfiction downloader programs that I'm aware of, DeFFNetizer and Fanfiction Downloader (the previously mentioned program). I've used both in the past; at the moment, I feel that Fanfiction Downloader is by far the better program. Someone here on the forum is also working on one called FFExtract but it's still very early in its development and not very functional at this point in time.

DeFFNetizer has been around for a while, but it's changed maintainers and the new maintainer has had to learn a new language (Python) in order to work on it, so things have been at a bit of a standstill lately. It saves individual chapters in HTML format & comes with several save templates to choose from (or you can customize your own). Currently, it works for Fanfiction.Net and TTHFanFic.Com (Twisting The Hellmouth). As well, the following sites either have limited functionality or are slated for future development:

* FicWad.Com
* LOTRFanFiction.Com
* PortKey.Org
* HarryPotterFanFiction.Com
* PhoenixSong.net

DeFFNetizer is available at http://www.deffnetizer.com/. Source code is available, along with Windows and Mac binaries.

The second fic downloader is one that I've just recently come across but it's quickly become my favourite. Fanfiction Downloader is available at http://www.home-eisele.de/downloader_e.php. The developer responded very quickly when I submitted a bug report and a couple of suggestions through the site. The current release (3.7) supports the following sites:

- fanfiction.net
- fanfiktion.de
- checkmated.com
- portkey.org
- adultfanfiction.net
- Animexx.de (test)
- Fictionalley.org (schnoogle, astronomy....)
- Fictionpress.com

Fanfiction Downloader will save as individual chapters or as a single file. It saves in RTF, HTML, or PDF. Very slick - but, unfortunately, only currently available as a Windows binary. It's written in C++.

For the sake of completeness, I'll also mention that there is an online fic download helper site available at http://www.ficsavers.com/. I haven't used Ficsavers but I've heard good things about it; you're supposed to be able to customize the fonts, background colours, etc. of the fics that you download with it. It currently supports 19 fanfic sites.

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Old 02-06-2008, 05:56 PM   #6
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I've read a few fics on live_journal with the kindle.
I'm not sure, but how does the kindle work outside USA? Can one connect it to any local wireless network or is one stuck with USB? Or is even hoplessly crippled?

Jaapjan: I can afford it (iLiad), but as my requirement aren't that big it's a bit painful to pay 650€. Still, I might go that way anyway.

DaleDe & dcalder: That was some really interesting information about the feed and download programs. Thanks, it's definitly something I will bookmark and check out. I was planning to write something myself, but I'm happy if I don't have to.

Well, I don't know if I really got more information to go on except that most devices should work. But that might be enought, I can start looking where it seems easiest to order from instead of trying to choose a reader.
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Old 02-06-2008, 06:26 PM   #7
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I'm not sure, but how does the kindle work outside USA? Can one connect it to any local wireless network or is one stuck with USB? Or is even hoplessly crippled?
Ahh, if you're not in the US then the Wireless connectivity will do you no good at all and you're better off going with one of the other e-ink readers. I'd say whatever you can find the best deal on where you live (or via mail order) will suit your needs well enough.
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Old 02-07-2008, 02:06 AM   #8
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I'm not sure, but how does the kindle work outside USA? Can one connect it to any local wireless network or is one stuck with USB? Or is even hoplessly crippled?
Don't even consider a Kindle if you're outside the US. You won't be able to buy any books for it from Amazon, and (obviously!) its wireless features won't work.
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Not to be nitpicky, but people do buy Amazon (and Sony Connect) books outside the US by having a credit card tied to a US address. Obviously not many people do this but I just wanted to save folks from any confusion if they read the posts from our non-US members that are buying books from these stores. Still, you lose a good deal of the convenience value of the Kindle if you're not in the US. The only thing is would have left to give it an advantage over cheaper and lighter devices is the search function. I agree with DaleDe: overkill. I don't hear enough about the HanLin devices to have a feel for them but I was all set to buy a Cybook myself before Kindle came out.
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I'm in a similar situation to the OP - I use my eBook reader for fanfic only (at this time, anyway.) I currently have an eBookwise 1150 which I adore, and use the GEBlibrary to convert my word and htm files into imp. My concern is that the 1150 battery won't last forever, and can't be replaced. So I'm in the market for new reader.

I'm in Canada, and have narrowed my choices to CyBook and Sony 505. Currently I have all my fanfic (several hundred mg's worth) on my computer in the following formats - word (.doc), .lit, .rb, and .htm.

Finally to my question! Which reader will convert these formats the easiest, and which has the bigger online bookstore, should I choose to buy some stuff? And what 3rd party programs do I need for conversion?

Thanks very much!
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Finally to my question! Which reader will convert these formats the easiest, and which has the bigger online bookstore, should I choose to buy some stuff? And what 3rd party programs do I need for conversion?

Thanks very much!
Nothing that I'm aware of (please correct me if I'm wrong, anyone!) will convert your rb books.

The Gen3 will display your HTML books directly.

You can easily convert LIT and DOC for both the Sony and the Gen3.

The Gen3 has a far greater range of bookstores available, given its support for MobiPocket books.

The Sony is rather cheaper; the Gen3 has more features (dictionary support, loading your own fonts, proper support for font families, etc).

I'm sure you'd be happy with either.
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You can use html2lrf to convert html for the 505. Works very well. Or if you prefer you can load the HTML into Book Designer. Also quite easy.
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RB eBooks can be converted to their html source (actually OEB) using a free download from Ebook Technologies. It is part of a package to convert eBooks for the eb1150 (ETI-2) product.

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Thanks Dale - I wasn't aware of that!
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So both the 505 and the CyBook will convert/read word docs? Do I need any 3rd part program - or do I just drag and drop or use their included software?

I'm leaning a bit toward the Cybook because of the warranty. And I've also looked at the iLiad, but I don't think I can justify the price. But if the sony would let me use word docs that would be points in their favor.

Decisions, decisions! Thanks for your help!
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