Sigil Appearance

chrisparker · 05-06-2011, 05:59 AM

Hi,

I run Sigil on an Apple Mac Pro and an Apple MacBook Air. On the MBA everything looks great, but all files opened in Sigil on the Mac Pro are displayed in an italic font.

The books display normally on the iPad and my PRS-350, so it's an appearance issue only.

Has anybody come across this before?

Chris

crutledge · 05-06-2011, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisparker

Hi,

I run Sigil on an Apple Mac Pro and an Apple MacBook Air. On the MBA everything looks great, but all files opened in Sigil on the Mac Pro are displayed in an italic font.

The books display normally on the iPad and my PRS-350, so it's an appearance issue only.

Has anybody come across this before?

Chris

In cases such as this I have usually found a missing or garbled end tag (</?>) just before the start of the problem.

chrisparker · 05-06-2011, 09:16 AM

Hi!

Thanks for the reply.

The screen font is different on the two computers for all epubs, so I'm not sure it can be a garbled tag in the epub file, if that's what you're suggesting.

Or have I misunderstood?

Chris

Valloric · 05-06-2011, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisparker

Hi!

Thanks for the reply.

The screen font is different on the two computers for all epubs, so I'm not sure it can be a garbled tag in the epub file, if that's what you're suggesting.

Or have I misunderstood?

Chris

Are you sure you are running the same version of Sigil on both computers?

chrisparker · 05-06-2011, 10:25 AM

Yes, 0.4.0 beta something.

But I noticed this when I was running 0.3.4 as well...

I wonder if it's anything to do with the fonts I've installed on the different machines?

Chris

Valloric · 05-09-2011, 11:33 AM

You probably have Tidy turned on on one machine and off on the other one.

chrisparker · 05-09-2011, 01:24 PM

Thanks, I'll try that at the end of the week when I get home.

Chris

chrisparker · 05-13-2011, 09:53 AM

No, that wasn't it. Tidy is turned on on both machines...

Valloric · 05-18-2011, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisparker

No, that wasn't it. Tidy is turned on on both machines...

Then I'm fresh out of ideas.

Sorry.

cybmole · 05-18-2011, 10:37 AM

I'd hypothesise that the machines do not have identical sets of sytem fonts.
sigil is using the closest available match (within the PCs font sets) for the font it wants to use in book view & that closest match on one machine happens to be italic.

knowing the name of sigil's preferred font would speed up the comparison but I never did find out what it defaults to . all I know is that it defaults to somehing which is ugly & is prone to artifacts, so I now always declare an explicit font family.

Valloric · 05-19-2011, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cybmole

I'd hypothesise that the machines do not have identical sets of sytem fonts.
sigil is using the closest available match (within the PCs font sets) for the font it wants to use in book view & that closest match on one machine happens to be italic.

knowing the name of sigil's preferred font would speed up the comparison but I never did find out what it defaults to . all I know is that it defaults to somehing which is ugly & is prone to artifacts, so I now always declare an explicit font family.

The default font in Book View is something that QtWebkit chooses. I have no idea how it makes a pick.

cybmole · 05-19-2011, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Valloric

The default font in Book View is something that QtWebkit chooses. I have no idea how it makes a pick.

it must be documented somewhere, surely, but I guess neither of us are that interested,

if you could easily set a well liked explicit & widely available default, like Times New Roman, in your next sigil release though, that would be a good workaround.

Valloric · 05-23-2011, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cybmole

it must be documented somewhere, surely, but I guess neither of us are that interested,

if you could easily set a well liked explicit & widely available default, like Times New Roman, in your next sigil release though, that would be a good workaround.

I'm fairly sure that the default QtWebkit font is not something hardcoded in the QtWebkit sources, but that it's a complex cascade of heuristic rules. Sure, I could probably have it pick TNR and that only, but that would go around any OS-level preferences the user may have set and that I think QtWebkit considers. It does vary based on OS though.

05-06-2011, 05:59 AM	#1
chrisparker Connoisseur Posts: 81 Karma: 48014 Join Date: May 2011 Location: London, UK Device: iPad Air 4, iPad mini 5, Kobo Forma, Kobo Aura One, Nook ST Glowlight	Sigil Appearance Hi, I run Sigil on an Apple Mac Pro and an Apple MacBook Air. On the MBA everything looks great, but all files opened in Sigil on the Mac Pro are displayed in an italic font. The books display normally on the iPad and my PRS-350, so it's an appearance issue only. Has anybody come across this before? Chris Attached Thumbnails

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chrisparker Connoisseur Posts: 81 Karma: 48014 Join Date: May 2011 Location: London, UK Device: iPad Air 4, iPad mini 5, Kobo Forma, Kobo Aura One, Nook ST Glowlight	Hi! Thanks for the reply. The screen font is different on the two computers for all epubs, so I'm not sure it can be a garbled tag in the epub file, if that's what you're suggesting. Or have I misunderstood? Chris

05-06-2011, 10:25 AM	#5
chrisparker Connoisseur Posts: 81 Karma: 48014 Join Date: May 2011 Location: London, UK Device: iPad Air 4, iPad mini 5, Kobo Forma, Kobo Aura One, Nook ST Glowlight	Yes, 0.4.0 beta something. But I noticed this when I was running 0.3.4 as well... I wonder if it's anything to do with the fonts I've installed on the different machines? Chris

05-09-2011, 11:33 AM	#6
Valloric Created Sigil, FlightCrew Posts: 1,982 Karma: 350515 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Kobo Clara HD	You probably have Tidy turned on on one machine and off on the other one.

05-09-2011, 01:24 PM	#7
chrisparker Connoisseur Posts: 81 Karma: 48014 Join Date: May 2011 Location: London, UK Device: iPad Air 4, iPad mini 5, Kobo Forma, Kobo Aura One, Nook ST Glowlight	Thanks, I'll try that at the end of the week when I get home. Chris

05-13-2011, 09:53 AM	#8
chrisparker Connoisseur Posts: 81 Karma: 48014 Join Date: May 2011 Location: London, UK Device: iPad Air 4, iPad mini 5, Kobo Forma, Kobo Aura One, Nook ST Glowlight	No, that wasn't it. Tidy is turned on on both machines...

05-18-2011, 10:37 AM	#10
cybmole Wizard Posts: 3,720 Karma: 1759970 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: none	I'd hypothesise that the machines do not have identical sets of sytem fonts. sigil is using the closest available match (within the PCs font sets) for the font it wants to use in book view & that closest match on one machine happens to be italic. knowing the name of sigil's preferred font would speed up the comparison but I never did find out what it defaults to . all I know is that it defaults to somehing which is ugly & is prone to artifacts, so I now always declare an explicit font family.

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