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Old 05-10-2012, 12:46 PM   #391
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Excellent news . Thanks for sharing that.
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Old 05-10-2012, 02:06 PM   #392
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"[BOOK AUTHOR/BOOK TITLE] ebook download" is not something someone would normally type if they were trying to find where they could legally purchase an ebook.
It is if they want to download the book rather than watch the movie or see articles about the actors. For anything that's been shown on TV or movies, those listings tend to dominate the search results.

[Lord of the Rings ebook download] gets very different results from just [Lord of the Rings].

[Lord of the rings ebook] first hit gets me amazon... with a blurb that says "A Christian can almost be forgiven for not reading the Bible, but there's no salvation for a fantasy fan who hasn't read the gospel of the genre, J.R.R. Tolkien's ..." Presumably, that's from the review? If I didn't *know* the books, I'd assume this was some other book with the same name, either written earlier and now pushed into popularity, or written afterward, using LOTR to push a religious message.

Second hit is the Mobileread discussion thread comparing different versions.

Third hit is *books*, not ebooks, for sale.

Fourth & later hits are torrent & "DOWNLOAD FREE EBOOK" sites.

And before anyone talks about clearing caches--this is on a new install of Portable Opera; I've been using this browser for a few days. (And not for ebook hunting or torrenting.)

None of the non-Amazon sales sites come up at all.

I think the public can be forgiven for not realizing how many of the download sites are unauthorized, when the stores don't even come up in searches.
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:03 AM   #393
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My point was that it is a very natural search term to use if you're looking for a download. Hence, my suspicion is that it's a term that a great many people will use it.
It's as natural as clicking on a bright red "You are a winner" sign.

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Before the book was actually released you didn't need to add download to the search term and the torrent sites would come up. Now, because of the release and news associated with it, you do.

I would imagine that most people looking to download anything from the web would include download in their search.
Actually what comes up for me is the website of the author, which has links to the official retailers for all available versions of the book.

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TPB was blocked in the Netherlands a while back, and I did mention this in post #48.

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It is if they want to download the book rather than watch the movie or see articles about the actors. For anything that's been shown on TV or movies, those listings tend to dominate the search results.

[Lord of the Rings ebook download] gets very different results from just [Lord of the Rings].

[Lord of the rings ebook] first hit gets me amazon... with a blurb that says "A Christian can almost be forgiven for not reading the Bible, but there's no salvation for a fantasy fan who hasn't read the gospel of the genre, J.R.R. Tolkien's ..." Presumably, that's from the review? If I didn't *know* the books, I'd assume this was some other book with the same name, either written earlier and now pushed into popularity, or written afterward, using LOTR to push a religious message.
Try "J.R.R. Tolkien Lord of the Rings". For me the results are 1) wikipedia article on the book, 2) wikipedia article on the author, 3) Amazon, 4) The Tolkien Society website with links, 5) another wiki, 6) fan site, 7) official bookshop followed by shopping results.
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:14 AM   #394
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On a related note ...

http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-f...pardon-120511/
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:07 AM   #395
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All three sites will be blocked to all UK internet users.

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Ch/2013/379.html
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:11 AM   #396
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Yep. More good news.
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:32 AM   #397
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What if you switch to using DNS servers from Open DNS? Would you then be able to get to these "banned" sites from the UK?
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:36 AM   #398
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I believe the block is at the IP level, not the DNS level. Of course there are ways around it for the dedicated criminal, but these blocks are put in place to deter the casual pirate, not the serious one.
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:10 AM   #399
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I believe the block is at the IP level, not the DNS level. Of course there are ways around it for the dedicated criminal, but these blocks are put in place to deter the casual pirate, not the serious one.
What you say brings to mind this adage.

"Locks only keep honest people honest."
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:10 PM   #400
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I fail to understand this obsession with blocking sites. People who access these sites are usually savvy enough to find ways to bypass these restrictions (all you need is a Google search). At the end of the day, this brings publicity to the sites which may make things worse.
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It is all about increasing friction.
The harder it is to do something, the more people will give up along the way and just not bother. Some people will always continue to the end, no matter how hard it is, but most won't.
An increasing awareness that legal action is being taken may also dissuade people.
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Old 03-06-2013, 01:25 PM   #402
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I fail to understand this obsession with blocking sites. People who access these sites are usually savvy enough to find ways to bypass these restrictions (all you need is a Google search). At the end of the day, this brings publicity to the sites which may make things worse.
Yeah, me too.

Can't see how this "good news", i couldn't care less. And i don't believe it'll help reduce piracy.
Making some decent and easy to use legal offer, that's the way.
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I believe the block is at the IP level, not the DNS level. Of course there are ways around it for the dedicated criminal, but these blocks are put in place to deter the casual pirate, not the serious one.
Its using BT's Cleanfeed™ technology... Which means it is sidestepped by the highly technical means of changing http to https.
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It is all about increasing friction.
The harder it is to do something, the more people will give up along the way and just not bother. Some people will always continue to the end, no matter how hard it is, but most won't.
An increasing awareness that legal action is being taken may also dissuade people.
I disagree, usually adding friction is a sure way to make people more determined to get there and work harder to find a workaround.
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Its using BT's Cleanfeed™ technology... Which means it is sidestepped by the highly technical means of changing http to https.
Oh noes, you spilled the beans!
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