06-14-2009, 02:57 PM | #16 | |
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They will probably sell textbooks in their own format, on their own store. They probably hope that limiting PDF support will deters you or the textbook publisher from using/selling PDF textbook. It's really a shame, because hardware wise the device have everything it need to display PDF nicely, and the price is good compared to current big screen readers. I hope someone will hacks it and add a good PDF reader, it would be great. |
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06-14-2009, 03:36 PM | #17 |
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1. The cost of manufacturing is not the cost to produce.
2. Amazon has to walk a line with publishers. It wants access to books and it wants conversions. If publishers are nervous about how users might use pdfs they may have pressured Amazon into less than full use of the features. The Sony is inherently crippled by its size. irex doesn't have to worry about its relationships with publishers. Amazon's managers are not stupid. They don't want the Kindle to be expensive and they do want it to be ubiquitous. Look what happened with the music industry - we are still in the incipient stages of digitizing books. |
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06-14-2009, 03:51 PM | #18 | |
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But I think Faenad is right: Amazon is doing as little as they have to, to implement PDF. It is likely, that the only only reason they are doing it, is because the newspaper and textbook publishers twisted their arm. So, Amazon said "yes," and then crippled it, so it doesn't compete with their sales. This is why, unless there is a real backlash from consumers, I don't believe Amazon will give us good support for PDF. |
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06-14-2009, 11:37 PM | #19 | |
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this is most effective way.
buy KDX and then cancel order and tell CSR that the software doesn't meet expectation. Quote:
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06-15-2009, 05:22 PM | #20 |
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It's coming today....
I'll have to decide what to do it. Anyone else thinking of returning theirs? |
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06-15-2009, 05:58 PM | #21 |
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06-15-2009, 07:55 PM | #22 |
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06-15-2009, 08:49 PM | #23 |
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I decided against returning it.
PDF support SUCKS but it is better than nothing (and I'm not paying for an iRex) and reading other books is still awfully nice (unless you have to type something, which I rarely do.) |
06-16-2009, 03:15 AM | #24 |
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From another thread it looks like some are starting to return their DX and go back to their 6" reader.
Others here cannot go back to a 6" screen. I hope some of you find the courage to send a strong message to Amazon by shelling out a couple hundred dollars more for an iRex. This is a fight for the freedom of readers, today and tomorrow. But we cannot wait much more to start and win this fight. All readers need to become as free and open as the Hanlin and iRex readers. Reading a paper book was a free experience. Reading an electronic book must not be a crippled unfree experience. That would be a regression for readers worldwide. |
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To lend a bit of perspective here, in 1972 I bought my first calculator - a Texas Instruments model that did addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, and square roots - that's all - for $99. As you can see, the price tag scarred me for life! You can do the math about the age.
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06-16-2009, 10:26 AM | #26 |
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06-16-2009, 10:42 AM | #27 |
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06-16-2009, 11:11 AM | #28 |
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About 1973, my high school trig teacher had a huge desktop calculator that did just the basic functions and he told me it cost $300. IIRC, the first scientific calculator I purchased in the early 80's was a Casio and cost around $200.
I'm disappointed in the lack of PDF features on the DX but d*$n I love the screen. It's big and has the best contrast of any Kindle I've owned. |
06-16-2009, 02:54 PM | #29 |
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So, I kicked the tires on my new Kindle DX a bit, and now I want to kick the person who made the decision to cripple PDF support.
I tried a few PDFs, and about half showed O.K.. The rest were too small, with huge margins, which could be trimmed with a little zooming, if zoom was available. But, overall, the PDF experience is extremely disappointing. Bordering on useless, frankly. You really can't do anything, except look at the page. No footnotes, TOC, or other hyperlinks. No dictionary support. As someone mentioned previously, the K DX implementation has almost nothing of what makes PDF such good format - it's basically a picture viewer. Otherwise, the screen is nice - much more book-like experience than the K2. The keyboard design is idiotic, since people use numbers often enough to navigate around a book, and number punching on the K DX is a real chore, particularly in bed. There seems to be enough space for another row of buttons, to accommodate the numbers keys. Right now, I am disappointed enough to return it. And unless someone tells me, that Amazon will implement PDF better soon, I think the K DX might be going back. |
06-16-2009, 07:53 PM | #30 |
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Perhaps the Kindle IV will be better.....about October or so?
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