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Old 03-29-2011, 10:14 PM   #121
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As a Kindle user please note that this is no excuse for untruths, your machine choice is your business and it is a popular one, just not the only right way... Sony's format was actually pretty good... so much so that many people change their epubs to lrf as they prefer its operation and appearance. Sony changed to epub because it was an upcoming and reasonable open format and because Amazon refused to allow the use of the mobi system they own.

Nook and Kobo owners don't have to blame their manufacturers for an inability to use mobi... they can blame the company that owns mobi... may be a good commercial decision for Amazon but it certainly is NOT everyone else's fault that other readers can't read mobi, it's a proprietary format that belongs to Amazon... and they get to keep it...
The reason some people prefer LRF is because LRF is justified and ePub was not until the 900 came out. People with a 900 or x50 Reader will no longer prefer LRF due to the fact that ePub can be justified with no page number on the right of the screen.

As for Amazon, they bought Mobipocket and they decided to lock it up so it's not feasible for anyone but Amazon to use it.
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Old 03-30-2011, 08:50 AM   #122
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Apple a big bookstore? HAHAHAHAHA!

ePub with Adept is sold all over the world. So when you take that into consideration, it is the #1 DRMed format.
No, it isn't. 80% of e-books sold are sold in the US.
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:28 AM   #123
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No, it isn't. 80% of e-books sold are sold in the US.
I'm sorry you feel the world ends at the US Borders But I assure you, it doesn't. eBooks are sold outside the USA. Trust me on this one. I do not know where you get your 80% from, but it's wrong. And outside the USA, ePub is #1 and inside the USA, more places have ePub then have any other format. So please, before you make statements like that, know that the USA is not the only country in the world.
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:55 AM   #124
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No, it isn't. 80% of e-books sold are sold in the US.
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:01 AM   #125
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ePub with Adept is sold all over the world.
So is MOBI with Amazon DRM.

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So when you take that into consideration, it is the #1 DRMed format.
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:05 AM   #126
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Since Amazon (and others) refuse to release sales data, I think it's anyone's guess.
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Old 03-30-2011, 08:57 PM   #127
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I'm sorry you feel the world ends at the US Borders But I assure you, it doesn't. eBooks are sold outside the USA. Trust me on this one. I do not know where you get your 80% from, but it's wrong. And outside the USA, ePub is #1 and inside the USA, more places have ePub then have any other format. So please, before you make statements like that, know that the USA is not the only country in the world.
Here's the link http://www.mediabistro.com/ebooknews...10_b5638?c=rss
And don't be insulting, particularly when you have no facts on your side. I know well that the US isn't the only country in the world, having spent several years, you know, living outside the US. But none of that is relevant to the fact that the vast majority of e-book sales are taking place inside the US. (And, for that matter, the Kindle has a decent presence in the UK, Australia, and Canada.)

None of this should be surprising if you are paying attention - there aren't any booksellers equivalent to the Kindle store, B&N store, or even the sony store (which I believe is US only, although the device is sold worldwide). There was recently a discussion noting that Germany - the largest country in the EU and a country with a large paper book market - had only .5% of the global e-book market.

Europe (and Asia, although Asia is much more fragmented) is a lot like the US was in 2006, before the introduction of the Kindle. There's nothing insulting about that; it is what it is.

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Okay, I made poor use of multiquote. See above.
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Old 03-30-2011, 11:20 PM   #128
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Here's the link http://www.mediabistro.com/ebooknews...10_b5638?c=rss
And don't be insulting, particularly when you have no facts on your side. I know well that the US isn't the only country in the world, having spent several years, you know, living outside the US. But none of that is relevant to the fact that the vast majority of e-book sales are taking place inside the US. (And, for that matter, the Kindle has a decent presence in the UK, Australia, and Canada.)

None of this should be surprising if you are paying attention - there aren't any booksellers equivalent to the Kindle store, B&N store, or even the sony store (which I believe is US only, although the device is sold worldwide). There was recently a discussion noting that Germany - the largest country in the EU and a country with a large paper book market - had only .5% of the global e-book market.
According to the APA, the US ebook market for 2010 had $441.3M in revenue. That number is quite different than what that consulting firm came up with (~50% to be exact). I think I would trust the APA a bit more on this.
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:56 AM   #129
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"In 2010, the global e-book market grew by more than 200% to exceed 90 million paid-for units," says Fiona Hoy, Market Analyst at Futuresource Consulting. "This equates to a value of more $900 million and was largely attributable to growth in the US region, which represented more than 80% of global revenues last year."
Hoy seems to be using an avererage of $10 per book, which seem pretty high. If the AAP figure of $441 million is correct, the US may be well above 50%. But I'm not sure the AAP figure includes self-published books, so it may be too low, pushing the US percentage even higher...

But as kennyc (sort of) says, until everybody gives out audited figures, who knows? And why does it matter, anyway?
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Ahhh, now that's soooo different, if you'd said Futuresource Consulting then that'd have been different (and this is from someone who lives in the UK)... Well known UK company, worldwide, absolutely trusted and reliable... who???? And what company posts an article in their own blog with a quote as though it's from a third party... themselves?

And if you were so worldwise then you'd realise that other countries do have the equivalent of some of you "wonderful" US stores... for starters the UK has Waterstones which IS the Sony Store and supports multiple eReaders from other companies. People have happily been using ereaders outside the US since the first ones came out and sourcing their books from wherever they could get them... which, in many cases, meant the US but doesn't mean most are sold in the US just from the US...


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Here's the link http://www.mediabistro.com/ebooknews...10_b5638?c=rss
And don't be insulting, particularly when you have no facts on your side. I know well that the US isn't the only country in the world, having spent several years, you know, living outside the US. But none of that is relevant to the fact that the vast majority of e-book sales are taking place inside the US. (And, for that matter, the Kindle has a decent presence in the UK, Australia, and Canada.)

None of this should be surprising if you are paying attention - there aren't any booksellers equivalent to the Kindle store, B&N store, or even the sony store (which I believe is US only, although the device is sold worldwide). There was recently a discussion noting that Germany - the largest country in the EU and a country with a large paper book market - had only .5% of the global e-book market.

Europe (and Asia, although Asia is much more fragmented) is a lot like the US was in 2006, before the introduction of the Kindle. There's nothing insulting about that; it is what it is.



Okay, I made poor use of multiquote. See above.
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So is MOBI with Amazon DRM.
Outside the USA ePub sells a lot more then AZW. Especially in non-English countries that sell eBooks.
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