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I just don't understand the "just start writing" notion and couldn't do it myself. |
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10-14-2012, 10:32 PM | #34 |
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Unfortunately King has a habit of writing himself into a corner. He'll build up the story tension to a very high level and then completely fail to deliver on it with a satisfying ending. I mean really, they cornered the evil-giant-spider-alien-demi-god-clown-thing and punched it to death?
I'm not privy to his thought processes, so I'm not saying this is a direct result of his seat-of-his-pants writing method, but I'm not the only person who has noticed that pattern in his books. |
10-15-2012, 06:42 AM | #35 | |
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Gotta Agree with that! I keep running into that in a completely different area (art) with certain people. |
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10-15-2012, 01:27 PM | #36 | |
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I've expanded this idea out to how I handle research as well. Since I don't outline, I don't always know what I'll need to research--I've got a good idea of where I'm headed, so I can do some research before writing, but mostly I make a note to research things after I'm done with the first draft of a chapter. Sure, this gives me fits sometimes--I think a series of events could take place, and I write them that way, and research means I have to rework things, but it's very rare that it effects the major plot points. It's almost always very minimal stuff. Usually, I know the major plot points well before I get there, and I've researched enough before hand to handle those. TL;DR - I do a little research beforehand on major plot points before the first draft, a lot on details (like colors of substances, names for architectural features, etc) after writing the first draft, and then I write the next draft. |
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I don't do much research, the only thing I really check are dates and names. I write fiction mainly from experience or opinion, so not much research is really needed. |
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10-16-2012, 04:00 PM | #39 |
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Here's a video of Brandon Sanderson discussing outlining vs. seat of pantsing, or as he says, gardeners and architects. The whole series of 13 lectures seem well worth watching.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glPLT...ure=plpp_video |
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I prefer his term "discovery writers " much better then the pejorative "pantsers" I am here by adopting it. |
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10-16-2012, 10:51 PM | #42 |
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Yes, that is a more appealing phrase. The other term I've heard is "stream of consciousness" writing - which, I guess, covers one aspect of it (one thing that sometimes happens while you're writing), but gives the impression that the end result is some sort of brain-dump, as if the writer is going to publish the first thing that comes out, which is just silly.
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10-16-2012, 11:00 PM | #43 | |
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"stream of consciousness" is something different, at least as I was taught in college. That is when you just start writing something, never go back, and do not worry much about perfect syntax, structure, etc. It is intended to mimic how people actually think. It can be very disjointed/etc because people tend to jump around mentally. That is nothing like writing a novel by the Discovery Method as we are still working towards a structured story told with good syntax/etc. |
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There are many names used.
In my mind the one that comes to the fore is "sloppy writing." |
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